My New Track Car is On The Way...

[mastersmech1]

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140442959816&viewitem=&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWNX%3AIT

[JTB]

You'll have some fun with that!

Bob's cars are always well sorted.

[mastersmech1]

You'll have some fun with that!

Bob's cars are always well sorted.
This seller seems real cool. He is throwing in all new rotors, Porterfield pads, strait exhaust and quieter exhaust and all of the documentation from Ford to Rousch to Bondurant as well as everything he has done. The price seems too good to pass up. I bid $15k a few months ago and it never met the reserve. I had private discussions with him following an unsuccessful auction. I dragged my feet so long that he reposted it and I happened upon it 7 hours before the auctions end.

[Quagmire]

Very nice, congrats! I bet that car is going to be a lot of fun.

[CH53Driver]

Very cool. I'm sure you'll have fun with it and seems like a good price for what you're getting.

[HSURB]

That's perfect for the track. It's not so expensive that you're afraid to push it.

Congrats and enjoy.

HSURB®

[Johnny Dangerously]

Congrats John!



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[Birdman]

Congrats John awesome find that car has everything already done to it. It will be just maintenance and wear items from here on out...:wtg: I wish you well with it!

[Joe G]

That's perfect for the track. It's not so expensive that you're afraid to push it.

Congrats and enjoy.

HSURB®

Exactly. It's not cheap, but you won't feel bad about running it hard. Looks to be a very solid car.


So... how bad will you spank that white GT of PW boy? :grin:

[Tommy Gun]

Suspension is similar to mine w/ the maximum motorsports stuff.

This will be a real blast just like my car.

Perfect for the track! :wtg:

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[68fastback]

Awesome find, John ...nice price for what its got too. Let the edge-dancing begin :grin:

[Gr8snkbite]

Awesome John.....

[Black Vert SS]

Nice car John
Good luck on the track

[mastersmech1]

Does the wife know yet? :ohsnap:

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No problem. She's happier about this car than me continuing to take "her" Shelby GT to the track...:doh2:

[Little Debbie]

nice new toy :smile:

[The Bone]

Now that is a nice car. It has all the stuff done so you can just take it to the track and get some.
Does it have the same shaft that TG's does?:haha:

[Co Pilot]

WooHoo!!! :yay:

Will there be some more MAN GET-A-WAY weekends lined up real soon? :crazy:

Glad to see you now have a car you can really enjoy without worrying to much about anything happening to it. :yes:

Will your son be showing any interest in the track trips coming up?

[Joker]

LMAO. Nice man getaway!

Nice looking car!

[mastersmech1]

WooHoo!!! :yay:

Will there be some more MAN GET-A-WAY weekends lined up real soon? :crazy:

Glad to see you now have a car you can really enjoy without worrying to much about anything happening to it. :yes:

Will your son be showing any interest in the track trips coming up?

My son is all about it. He has to get through high school and swim season first. He'll be 18 in April. We'll talk after that...

[Orf]

Nice acquisition, John.

[mastersmech1]

Nice acquisition, John.

Thanks. I got a friend of mine that transports to bring it down for $150. I just can't be in a big hurry, which is no big deal. He would have had it here this Wednesday, but the seller is out of town for the week...

[King Cobra]

:wow2:Very nice! A bargain for sure.:wtg:

[mustang loco]

Very nice bud',enjoy it.....:wtg:

[Tommy Gun]

I see Tucker on the list, but I don't see you or Flyboy yet? :waiting:


http://www.svtcobraclub.com/forums/showthread.php?p=220561#post220561


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[mastersmech1]

If my carrier doesn't give me a date on Monday, I'm driving up there next weekend to get it...:waiting2::doh2:

[Johnny Dangerously]

If my carrier doesn't give me a date on Monday, I'm driving up there next weekend to get it...:waiting2::doh2:
We could do an SU relay from NY to Va Bch, VA. That way several of us could test it out for you & make sure everything is ok with it.:chirp:


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[mastersmech1]

We could do an SU relay from NY to Va Bch, VA. That way several of us could test it out for you & make sure everything is ok with it.:chirp:


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That's cool. It's not street legal though...:cop3:

[Gr8snkbite]

when's it due to arrive...

[mastersmech1]

when's it due to arrive...
Spoke with the transport agent today. They plan on picking it up early next week. Any more delays and I'll be going up there next weekend...:waiting2:

[Gr8snkbite]

cool...hope it works out...great weather ahead...

[Tommy Gun]

Track time almost here. :waiting2:

[mastersmech1]

My car was load in NY today. I should get it tomorrow or Monday. 4 weeks to prep. I already reserved my room at the VIR Lodge. I'll book my track time as soon as it leaves the transport...:crazy:

[mastersmech1]

I didn't call the shipper today. I have been wearing them out. I know it was picked up. I will resume wearing them out again tomorrow.

[mastersmech1]

Car should arrive tomorrow...:crazy:

[68fastback]

yay!!!!

Pics!!!

Vids!!!

:biggrin:

[mastersmech1]

Car showed up today. My guys unloaded it as I was at a morning meeting. One of the knuckleheads hit the Halon switch and emptied the can...:doh2:The battery is dead, beyond jumping. I have a new one on the way by 10AM tomorrow. I assumed that it had two seats, but was wrong. I have a passenger seat on the way for an instructor or passsenger. I didn't have time to play with it today. Maybe tomorrow when I get the battery.:grin:

[CH53Driver]

Pictures!:boink:

[Gr8snkbite]

Car showed up today. My guys unloaded it as I was at a morning meeting. One of the knuckleheads hit the Halon switch and emptied the can...:doh2:The battery is dead, beyond jumping. I have a new one on the way by 10AM tomorrow. I assumed that it had two seats, but was wrong. I have a passenger seat on the way for an instructor or passsenger. I didn't have time to play with it today. Maybe tomorrow when I get the battery.:grin:

that sucks....bastids......:boink:

[Tommy Gun]

Employee needs a good > :buttkick: and then some. :nonono:



:waiting2:


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[mastersmech1]

Sorry, no pics yet. We've been busy as hell at work. The day it arrived I didn't even see it until after lunch, 6 hours after it arrived. I've been squeezing in some parking lot time. I ordered the passenger seat and 5 point restraint. Everything else appears ready to go. I plan on getting to the shop Sunday for a once over. I'll get some pics then. As far as the Fire Bottle, I called the company. They said that bottle has been outlawed since 2001. As long is it hadn't discharged it would have been ok. The new bottle is $450. I considered not getting it, but I thought about being on fire at the track and wishing I hadn't been such a cheapskate. It will be here by Wednesday. When I roll this thing off the trailer at VIR, I'm sure everyone will expect a lot from the driver of such a capable car. I'm sure to dissapoint them somewhat...:doh2:

[mastersmech1]

...but you'll be having so much fun doing it :biggrin:












:hide: ;-)
You got that right and I just found another date there with Track Daze in November...:wtg:

[68fastback]

Hope all is ready for you for VIR, MM!!

[Tommy Gun]

Sorry, no pics yet. We've been busy as hell at work. The day it arrived I didn't even see it until after lunch, 6 hours after it arrived. I've been squeezing in some parking lot time. I ordered the passenger seat and 5 point restraint. Everything else appears ready to go. I plan on getting to the shop Sunday for a once over. I'll get some pics then. As far as the Fire Bottle, I called the company. They said that bottle has been outlawed since 2001. As long is it hadn't discharged it would have been ok. The new bottle is $450. I considered not getting it, but I thought about being on fire at the track and wishing I hadn't been such a cheapskate. It will be here by Wednesday. When I roll this thing off the trailer at VIR, I'm sure everyone will expect a lot from the driver of such a capable car. I'm sure to dissapoint them somewhat...:doh2:



You'll be fine in the car, remember this is what Bondurant taught people in before.

What shop is open Sunday? :grin:


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[mastersmech1]

You'll be fine in the car, remember this is what Bondurant taught people in before.

What shop is open Sunday? :grin:


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My shop...:tease2:

[mastersmech1]

Here you go...

[mastersmech1]

More...

[mastersmech1]

And a few more...

[mastersmech1]

Just a few more...

[Tob]

What is interesting is the Roush engineered and fabricated torque arm, along with the fact that while the previous owner upgraded to a plethora of MM goodies, he chose to stick with the tubular Roush unit as opposed to one of Maximum's arms.

Roush never sold the torque arm to the public, so finding one (not bolted to a Bondurant car) is extremely rare.

Tob

[mastersmech1]

What is interesting is the Roush engineered and fabricated torque arm, along with the fact that while the previous owner upgraded to a plethora of MM goodies, he chose to stick with the tubular Roush unit as opposed to one of Maximum's arms.

Roush never sold the torque arm to the public, so finding one (not bolted to a Bondurant car) is extremely rare.

Tob
Interesteing... You know some stuff...

[JTB]

Just a few more...

Really, Really nice kitted out car, MM! :wtg:

The stock steering wheel was a surprise.

[onecrazydog]

That thing is sweeeeet!!!

Good score!!!

[Gr8snkbite]

sweet John.....just dont let TG drive it...

[68fastback]

Very rightous ride, MM!!

4.65L/283.5cid ;-) 321rwHP, didn't catch weight, but from the pics I'd bet it sits at class minimum (3000?). Really nice setup all around. This pup will be pretty darn quick!!

It's like instant fun ...just add enthusiastic warm body :biggrin:

Wish you the very best with her, John!!

[mastersmech1]

sweet John.....just dont let TG drive it...

Not a chance...:redcard:

[King Cobra]

Very nice MM!:wtg:

[Tob]

Interesteing... You know some stuff...
About seven or eight years ago I used to get updates from Bondurant on the cars they were selling. I also moderate on a site frequented by some Roush and FRPP engineers. Here's one of a few old threads on the subject...

http://corner-carvers.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7173&highlight=roush+torque+arm

The unique Roush torque arm piqued my interest at the time. Here's a few shots of the arm on a Bondurant car along with Roush's panhard bar...

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00559Large.jpg?t=1285553432

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00560Large.jpg?t=1285553477

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00570Large.jpg?t=1285553567

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00540Large.jpg?t=1285553613

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00542Large.jpg?t=1285553650

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00544Large.jpg?t=1285553691

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00546Large.jpg?t=1285553732

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00547Large.jpg?t=1285553773

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00548Large.jpg?t=1285553809

http://i772.photobucket.com/albums/yy1/Tobphotobucket/Bondurant-Roush%20Torque%20Arm/DSC00556Large.jpg?t=1285553847

Matt King is a regular at CC.com as well and put the following story together for Car Craft regarding the Bondurant cars as well...

http://www.carcraft.com/thehistoryof/71858_bondurant_school_mustang/index.html

I enjoy the history, as the Fox body "Quadra-bind" rear suspension and its inherent snap-oversteer characteristics weren't addressed by Ford until these cars came along (lets call it unofficial involvement). Apparently Ford toyed with the idea of a panhard bar and torque arm for the '93R, but that was quickly brushed under the carpet. S197 chassis owners have "development" vehicles like these to thank for things like the third link and panhard bar as well. Were it not for Bondurant I don't think the Mustang would be as good as it is today...

Tob

[Tommy Gun]

Very interesting stuff TOB.

I have basically the same car as John, although heavier since I haven't gutted it yet.

I have about 30 more HP.

I also have the Maximum Motorsports Torque arm instead of the Roush unit.

It is 10 times more beef and has made a total change to the handling.

I almost wish my GT500 had a torque arm, because the handling is just incredible.

John will totally fall in love w/ the handling this set up has.

We're gonna have a blast at VIR in October and November! :wtg:

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[68fastback]

...the offset pivot mount and diff attachment of the Roush torque arm is interesting. Thanks for posting the pics, Tob.

[Tommy Gun]

...the offset pivot mount and diff attachment of the Roush torque arm is interesting.



Mine from MM is centered both at the attachment by the tranny and at the diff. :grin:

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[Gr8snkbite]

interesting Tob...the bracing under the pinion and shaft "appear" to be similar to griggs system..

[Tob]

I run MM torque arms on each of my Fox bodies, along with MM panhard bars, LCA's, subs, yada, yada. I agree, they work very well.

[Tommy Gun]

I run MM torque arms on each of my Fox bodies, along with MM panhard bars, LCA's, subs, yada, yada. I agree, they work very well.


I have the full MM suspension on my SN95. :wtg:

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[Tommy Gun]

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/fastestshelby2/Suspension%20pics/DSC06044.jpg



http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/fastestshelby2/Suspension%20pics/DSC06043.jpg

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[68fastback]

Nice, TG!!

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The torque-arm mounting location on the MM and Griggs look similar (directly under the DS) but that Roush setup looks offset to the driver's side. Maybe it was just how it appeared in the pic, so I'm wondering if I'm seeing that right and if Roush did that for a specific purpose -- possibly to allow more clearance/swing for the DS or to get a slightly higher pivot location to be a bit clsoer to the vehicle cernter of mass, or... ???

[Tommy Gun]

Does seem odd being offset.

I just know it really improved the whole feel of the car big-time. :wtg:

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[mastersmech1]

Getting ready to go. Bled the brakes and checked all the pads and rotors. Installed the new Fire Bottle. Checked the oil level- Just changed by previous owner with the engine rebuild. Cleaned exterior with Carnuba wax cleaner- amazing stuff. Just wipe on and wipe off- removes rubber and rubbish. Installed my new Corbeau passenger seat. Still waiting for my 5 point Simpson belts. Checked all signal lights, wiper blades and belt. I put a trailer brake control on my Tundra and I'll do a "dry run" this week to make sure things are right for trailering. On the dry run, I'll take the car to my mechanic friend for a look see underneath on the lift. Hopefully all will be good.

[Tommy Gun]

Heading over to try and figure out MM's track turd fuel problem. :look:

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[mastersmech1]

Heading over to try and figure out MM's track turd fuel problem. :look:

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And figure it out we did. The fuel cell is wasted. The foam is deteriorated and the bladder is stiff. Time to replace all. We changed the brake fluid and front pads. TG checked all the spark plugs. Everything else looks good...:waiting2:

[Tommy Gun]

Now for some ......:moneyman:




:ohsnap:

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[Joe G]

And figure it out we did. The fuel cell is wasted. The foam is deteriorated and the bladder is stiff. Time to replace all.

That sucks. I thought everything was gone through before you bought it?

[Tommy Gun]

That sucks. I thought everything was gone through before you bought it?
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I thought about this earlier if the guy knew something was up w/ the fuel cell.

It could have just started happening. The guy could have not suspected this at all.

The way the sponge material in the tank is set up it was just a matter of time til it made it's way to the filter.

The material is said to last 5 years and it lasted 9.5 years. :surprised:

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[Joe G]

O I C

Makes sense that the former owner may have been having issues but nothing major.

[Tommy Gun]

O I C

Makes sense that the former owner may have been having issues but nothing major.
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MM was having issues at higher RPM's only.

Probably because it was just starting to happen.

Previous owner may not have noticed if it was just starting.

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[Birdman]

Racing sanctions require the fuel cells to be changed at specified X number of years obviously because of deterioration issues and loss of integrity .....guess the TBird is due for a new fuel cell by now too....or at least new foam baffling which I already changed once since new but that was about 5 yrs ago.....:banghead:

[mastersmech1]

Fuel Safe says you only get 5 years out of the foam and bladder. I sent it off Monday for the install in Seattle. In the mean time: new Cobra calipers and rear stainless braided brake lines. I guess I'll just tidy things up until next year. The tank overhaul is going to take a minimum of 3-4 weeks which screws me out of next weeks Track Daze event...:doh2:

[Tommy Gun]

You'll have a blast though at the next event w/ some real power!


Who knows how much this was taking away from you.


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[mastersmech1]

You'll have a blast though at the next event w/ some real power!


Who knows how much this was taking away from you.


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:frolic:

[68fastback]

what was actually heppening ...how was the fuel cell limiting power ...sluff-off clogging up the filter? ??

[Tommy Gun]

what was actually heppening ...how was the fuel cell limiting power ...sluff-off clogging up the filter? ??


Pieces of the foam blocks had made their way to the basket that housed the fuel pump. It was enough to block the screen most of the time. I think it was sloshing around enough to work okay at times but not at others.

When pulled out, the fuel filter sock was covered w/ foam.

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[68fastback]

Wow! Cool that you found that, MM ...way to go!! :banana:

[mastersmech1]

Wow! Cool that you found that, MM ...way to go!! :banana:

It's a big relief that it's not one of those hard to find problems...

[68fastback]

for sure ...and I see TG said plugs looked good ...you dodged a bullet, I think! :woohoo:

[mastersmech1]

for sure ...and I see TG said plugs looked good ...you dodged a bullet, I think! :woohoo:

:grin:

[mastersmech1]

Today, I was in to getting the car ready for VIR. The new fuel cell is installed with new fuel pumps, new swaybar bushings (The old ones partially melted when the exhaust was on them. The exhaust has been deflected down now), welded exhaust flanges, new fuel filter, new driver side seatbelts (old ones expired in 2010), New front calipers and pads, new rear braided brake lines. It if isn't one thing it's another...
Oh, I almost forgot. TG came over today to assist me with setting the car up on my trailer for transport. I came across a great deal on a almost new aluminum 18' low ride car trailer. The process went great. I took TG to lunch afterward. Take it from me, just pay the guy cash... that boy can eat...:redcard3:

[Joe G]

I came across a great deal on a almost new aluminum 18' low ride car trailer. The process went great.

:needpics:


How much was it?

[mastersmech1]

:needpics:


How much was it?
I paid $4,100. I've been to busy working on the car to even snap a pic. I thought pic boy (TG) would have done it while he was standing around all day...:doh2:

[Joe G]

That's a pretty good price!

[mastersmech1]

That's a pretty good price!

I think so. I was on my way to a trailer dealer to buy a steel trailer for $3,400 + fees, etc. Saw it on my way there for sale by owner. I paid more, but it's all aluminum. New, it would cost $6,500...:mafiasmilie:

[Snoopy]

I just passed your post count MM . :hilarious:


Looking for Lurker next :birdy:




:dog:

[68fastback]

:doh2:

;-)

[Tommy Gun]

Here you go...



Is this still happening? :look: