Third Problem W/ The SHO

[Tommy Gun]

This is kinda a simple thing, but should be very very important in Ford's eyes. :grin:


A little bit after getting the car we noticed the front Ford emblem looked like it was peeling?

Well now at 8000 miles it is getting real noticeable. The car has zero chips on the front of it and the painted grill has zero chips so I know it is not chipped.


Here is a pic of it. Just sent pics in today to have them order one so it can be replaced during the next oil change. (Hopefully w/o causing another issue. :nonono: )




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[Orf]

The emblem on my Expedition's grille has also peeled. There is hardly any blue left on it.

I've been told there is nothing Ford will do about it.

[Tommy Gun]

The emblem on my Expedition's grille has also peeled. There is hardly any blue left on it.

I've been told there is nothing Ford will do about it.


Really?

At what age/mileage did you bring it up?

[Gr8snkbite]

i can actually see alot of imperfections in it (dimples), even in the wording...whats up with that...even some of the areas where paint is gone i see the dimples...

[Tommy Gun]

i can actually see alot of imperfections in it (dimples), even in the wording...whats up with that...even some of the areas where paint is gone i see the dimples...


The whole thing close up is bad.

There is a same sized one on the trunk and it looks perfect.

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[Gr8snkbite]

The whole thing close up is bad.

There is a same sized one on the trunk and it looks perfect.

.

yea, but its not getting hit with full force windage either...makes me wonder about the casting process. you can clearly see them in the letter plating

[Orf]

Really?

At what age/mileage did you bring it up?

I've only had it 3 years, but I believe I brought it up in the first year. That, along with the corroding aluminum on the hood and rear lift gate...

[VaporDude]

It looks like someone ran a sand blaster over it. Those chips remind me of my 05 Mustang GT. It had a lot of chips all over the front end. It was caused from following traffic too close and running along the median wall. There is a lot of dirt there that gets kicked up.

[Boston Mike]

Maybe we should design a SU emblem (it's oval too, right) to replace your FORD one. :idea:

[Johnny Dangerously]

Although you shouldn't have to do something like this, you can get a small piece of clear bra material & put it over the emblem.

I did it to my stars & stripes pony emblem, but it was a year after I installed the emblem on my car. It does a pretty good job of keeping it preserved.

[CH53Driver]

:wow2: that sucks. If there was any part of the car you think Ford would replace without a big stink it would be that part considering it's their nameplate!:doh2:

[Tommy Gun]

:wow2: that sucks. If there was any part of the car you think Ford would replace without a big stink it would be that part considering it's their nameplate!:doh2:


That's what I was thinking.



And this isn't from being chipped by road debris.

[Joe G]

The company that makes those is here in Minnesota. I've been to the plant many times (though they may have a few suppliers for this stuff, dunno).


The past 3 company cars have all had issues just like this (and they weren't due to road debris or chipping). 2 were Fords, one was a Chevy :nonono:.

I think it's just the cheap "metalized" plastic that they use now vs. the more sturdy older more solid emblems of years ago.

[Birdman]

Nice tech post, Moderator dufus. :nonono:

I was addressing the problem ...the Canadian way...:shades:


Didn't the old blue oval emblems have the emblem under the clear plastic like the wheel cap have? They didn't have any problems chipping.

[68fastback]

...should be no prob having them replace it ...isn't there a 3/36 bumper to bumper warranty?

After they replace it a spray clear-coat might do the trick?

[JTB]

I was addressing the problem ...the correct way...:shades:


Didn't the old blue oval emblems have the emblem under the clear plastic like the wheel cap have? They didn't have any problems chipping.

:judge:

[Birdman]

That's what I was thinking.



And this isn't from being chipped by road debris.

Looks like road debris to me? Probably sand from this winter's storms. Looks like the paint is very thin and not clear coated like the car's paint, that's why I mentioned the fact that the paint is on the outside where is is subject to this type of thing and not under the plastic like other emblem trim pieces are. Even if this is replaced with another like it I see it happening again and again.

[Tommy Gun]

Looks like road debris to me? Probably sand from this winter's storms. Looks like the paint is very thin and not clear coated like the car's paint, that's why I mentioned the fact that the paint is on the outside where is is subject to this type of thing and not under the plastic like other emblem trim pieces are. Even if this is replaced with another like it I see it happening again and again.


It has been this way for months.

The grill around it is a painted grill and does not have a chip/spot on it, neither does the hood or lower fascia.

The car is usually not driven in bad weather at all and has not been out much at all this winter.

The most abuse it has probably seen is driving to Florida twice.

[3ponies]

There is so much salt on mine I could never see it unless I ckean the grill!

[Tommy Gun]

:ohsnap:

[Joe G]

It has been this way for months.

The grill around it is a painted grill and does not have a chip/spot on it, neither does the hood or lower fascia.

The car is usually not driven in bad weather at all and has not been out much at all this winter.

The most abuse it has probably seen is driving to Florida twice.

IMO it's a mfg defect like I said in my first post. :nonono:

[JTB]

IMO it's a mfg defect like I said in my first post. :nonono:


Then this manufacture in Sota must have some Tape of Bill Ford Jr. or something as why would they keep using them when the problem is so widespread?


Here's a picture of Bill F. Jr. and his Championship Pond Hockey Team.

Bill Ford Jr. knows THE CODE. :tease2:


http://usahockey.cachefly.net/Adult/Pond/2010/champs-over-50.jpg

[Tommy Gun]

Then this manufacture in Sota must have some Tape of Bill Ford Jr. or something as why would they keep using them when the problem is so widespread?


Here's a picture of Bill F. Jr. and his Championship Pond Hockey Team.

Bill Ford Jr. knows THE CODE. :tease2:


http://usahockey.cachefly.net/Adult/Pond/2010/champs-over-50.jpg


I don't have a clue what any of your post means?

[JTB]

I don't have a clue what any of your post means?

That is OK.

Carry on.

[Joe G]

Then this manufacture in Sota must have some Tape of Bill Ford Jr. or something as why would they keep using them when the problem is so widespread?



I see you don't read back, so I'll say it again. I've had this kind of problem with all 3 of my last company cars (2 Ford, 1 Chebby and actually I checked today and my one year old Dodge also has it as well). I think is an issue with most of the metalized plastic nowadays. :nonono:

[Birdman]

IMO it's a mfg defect like I said in my first post. :nonono:

I agree with you, it looks like the paint they use is no where near as tough as the paint on the rest of the car. That's why i said the emblems that are painted from the back side and show through the clear plastic won't fail like these poorly done surface painted plastic emblems. (Example: the Ford emblem on the rear deck lid of my T-Bird is painted from the back side of the clear plastic and it is still in perfect condition)

It must be a lot cheaper to manufacture the externally painted ones and it looks like the bean counters won out.

[mustang loco]

:wow2: that sucks. If there was any part of the car you think Ford would replace without a big stink it would be that part considering it's their nameplate!:doh2:

+1

[HSURB]

I have a good idea what "The Code" is.

It's called grab your ankles and don't tell your momma.:haha:

HSURB®

[Orf]

I thought you might like to see what your emblem will probably look like in 3 years..

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/GOrphall/Ford001.jpg

Oh, and the leading edge of the aluminum hood, where the aluminum has corroded and caused the paint to peel off..

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/GOrphall/Ford002.jpg

Yes. I know it's dirty. It's a DD and the snow has begun to thaw in these parts...


And, yes. Ford says both of these are within their definition of "normal".

[Boston Mike]

I don't have a clue what any of your post means?

It's that danged canadian gibberish.......

[Tommy Gun]

I thought you might like to see what your emblem will probably look like in 3 years..

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/GOrphall/Ford001.jpg

Oh, and the leading edge of the aluminum hood, where the aluminum has corroded and caused the paint to peel off..

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/GOrphall/Ford002.jpg

Yes. I know it's dirty. It's a DD and the snow has begun to thaw in these parts...


And, yes. Ford says both of these are within their definition of "normal".



:ohsnap:

[HSURB]

I thought you might like to see what your emblem will probably look like in 3 years..

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/GOrphall/Ford001.jpg

Oh, and the leading edge of the aluminum hood, where the aluminum has corroded and caused the paint to peel off..

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/GOrphall/Ford002.jpg

Yes. I know it's dirty. It's a DD and the snow has begun to thaw in these parts...


And, yes. Ford says both of these are within their definition of "normal".

Wow Orf. Who's your detailer?

HSURB®:haha:

[JTB]

It's that danged canadian gibberish.......


"Danged" ??

:rofl3:


http://wagthedog.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/beverly-hillbillies.jpg

[JTB]

I thought you might like to see what your emblem will probably look like in 3 years..

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/GOrphall/Ford001.jpg

Oh, and the leading edge of the aluminum hood, where the aluminum has corroded and caused the paint to peel off..

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x100/GOrphall/Ford002.jpg

Yes. I know it's dirty. It's a DD and the snow has begun to thaw in these parts...


And, yes. Ford says both of these are within their definition of "normal".

:nonono:

[Orf]

Wow Orf. Who's your detailer?

HSURB®:haha:


I covered that.

It was perfectly clean on Tuesday.

[Tommy Gun]

"Danged" ??

:rofl3:


http://wagthedog.files.wordpress.com/2008/01/beverly-hillbillies.jpg


That is one of them there southern words. :grin:

[Shlbylvr]

That is one of them there southern words. :grin:

Charming.
:doh2:

[Tommy Gun]

:grin:

[ItalianStallion]

Yea, see you should have bought the 2011 SHO this has been taken care of. So far, no problems with mine .
IS

[Tommy Gun]

This is kinda a simple thing, but should be very very important in Ford's eyes. :grin:


A little bit after getting the car we noticed the front Ford emblem looked like it was peeling?

Well now at 8000 miles it is getting real noticeable. The car has zero chips on the front of it and the painted grill has zero chips so I know it is not chipped.


Here is a pic of it. Just sent pics in today to have them order one so it can be replaced during the next oil change. (Hopefully w/o causing another issue. :nonono: )




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I have a whole three month story about how this is going along.

It's not good.

Next week it will be taken care of and I'll post the story.

Someone may be losing their job over this $25 emblem. :nonono:

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[Joe G]

I have a whole three month story about how this is going along.

It's not good.

Next week it will be taken care of and I'll post the story.

Someone may be losing their job over this $25 emblem. :nonono:

.

:waiting2:

[Shlbylvr]

:waiting:

[JTB]

I have a whole three month story about how this is going along.

It's not good.

Next week it will be taken care of and I'll post the story.

Someone may be losing their job over this $25 emblem. :nonono:

.

If there is one thing FORD would take ownership of, it's the Quality and control of the Brand Emblems on their vehicles, this is a JOKE.

There seems to be a real disconnect between FORD Dealers, FORD RACING and FORD Corporate that hinders their customers when trying to sort simple issues. JMO

[Tommy Gun]

If there is one thing FORD would take ownership of, it's the Quality and control of the Brand Emblems on their vehicles, this is JOKE.

There seems to be a real disconnect between FORD Dealers, FORD RACING and FORD Corporate that hinders their customers when trying to sort simple issues. JMO



I totally agree!





Wait a minute? LOL

[The Bone]

so where is the story you promised big fella

[68fastback]

:waiting:

:giggle:

[Joe G]

so where is the story you promised big fella

:iagree:

[HSURB]

Story Time TG. You only have two knees.

HSURB®

[68fastback]

Let's do it for him ...everyone just just add some lines :giggle:

Once upon a time there was a cute little beagle born to a loving couple in NYC.
But the Big Apple was no longer in thier future, so they packed up and moved south.
The little pooch grew like a weed and started leaving deposits in the corners of the room,
so they sent him off to doggie training school where he resided in an old Ford with torn seats.
This was a turning point in the young pooch's life...
(lol :weg:) ...oh, nevermind ...this is a tech thread :doh2:

[Tommy Gun]

Apparently you all missed this line....






Next week it will be taken care of and I'll post the story.

.

[Joe G]

Apparently you all missed this line....

We don't read back. :cop2:

[68fastback]

...nah, just chose to ignore that so you'd spill the beans and tell us wuzzup before they take care of whatever it is :bunny: :biggrin:

[edit:] besides, Joe misses nothing ;-)

[HSURB]

This thread is on hold until next week.

HSURB®

[Tommy Gun]

I can't hold it much longer..... :potty:

[Joe G]

I can't hold it much longer..... :potty:

Just put on a pair of Granny's Depends.

[JTB]

Just put on a pair of Granny's Depends.

I thought TG likes GRANNY in a thong?

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/187706-legit_13_year_old_wear_thong.jpg

[Joe G]

I thought TG likes GRANNY in a thong?

http://www.pollsb.com/photos/o/187706-legit_13_year_old_wear_thong.jpg

If Granny looked like that, I'm sure he wouldn't mind.

:drool:

[The Bone]

3 bumps just like above.
so where is our story TG

[68fastback]

5880

(another gif that won't run :doh2: -lol)

[CH53Driver]

5880

(another gif that won't run :doh2: -lol)

Did you upload it to a server such as Photobucket and then copy it as an IMG?

[68fastback]

Did you upload it to a server such as Photobucket and then copy it as an IMG?

...no, uploaded .gif from my computer ...they always used to work when I was on Win-XP. On Vista even tho I saved them the same way (simple "save as") they are unreliable. However, if I saved it with XP and now upload it with Vista, it will work, bu if I save it with Vista and then upload with Vista it's unreliable, even though they will 'run' fine when I veiw them locally. Even that is different. Using the same Windows viewer, on XP it would open all .gifs no prob. On Vista, it will open some but others it wants to open in IE. Vista has some quirks for sure.

[CH53Driver]

I've found that the only reliable way to make them work is to upload to a server and then copy as an IMG to your post. Here's Joe getting overwhelmed for BVMS backorders.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q54/CH53Driver/suvkojjpg.gif

[Tommy Gun]

3 bumps just like above.
so where is our story TG


Not til problem is solved tomorrow and some emails go out to a few big wigs of the company about our experience.

.

[Shlbylvr]

I've found that the only reliable way to make them work is to upload to a server and then copy as an IMG to your post. Here's Joe getting overwhelmed for BVMS backorders.

http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q54/CH53Driver/suvkojjpg.gif

I thought that was TG trying to get bunny status.

:bunny:

[CH53Driver]

I thought that was TG trying to get bunny status.

:bunny:

You're right. I was tired last night when I posted that. :look:

[rickf73]

5880

(another gif that won't run :doh2: -lol)

Let me help you out. :grin:

http://i252.photobucket.com/albums/hh18/rickf73/forums/1254478578_robot_hand.gif

[68fastback]

...thanks, Rick :tiphat2: ;-)

[JTB]

:sleeping:

[Joe G]

:sleeping:

:goodpost:

[JTB]

:goodpost:




:tiphat:

[CH53Driver]

:tease2:

I feel pretty, oh so pretty...

[JTB]

:tease2:

I feel pretty, oh so pretty...http://i920.photobucket.com/albums/ad46/KeekiChan/gay-flag-28.gif




:look:

[Tommy Gun]

Nice thread

[CH53Driver]

:look:


You like that emoticon don't you? :look:

[The Bone]

Nice thread
Ya who started it in the first place.:doh2:

[Tommy Gun]

Here is the new warrantied part.

I picked it up and am going to install so we didn't have to drive the car 75 miles round trip to have it installed.

The whole deal hasn't gone down yet so can't post the details just yet.


. 5892

[JTB]

Here is the new warrantied part.

I picked it up and am going to install so we didn't have to drive the car 75 miles round trip to have it installed.

The whole deal hasn't gone down yet so can't post the details just yet.


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Your closest FORD dealer is over 35 miles away? :waiting2:

[Tommy Gun]

Your closest FORD dealer is over 35 miles away? :waiting2:



The only one I thought I would deal with, and the one we bought the car from.

The dealer I bought my GT500 from is over 50 miles away.

[68fastback]

Here is the new warrantied part.

I picked it up and am going to install so we didn't have to drive the car 75 miles round trip to have it installed.

The whole deal hasn't gone down yet so can't post the details just yet.


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Bill, what's the Ford part# on that?

[HSURB]

Your closest FORD dealer is over 35 miles away? :waiting2:

Actually 28 miles.

HSURB®

[Tommy Gun]

Bill, what's the Ford part# on that?


AS4Z-8213-A Name Plate

Made in Mexico. :nonono:

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[68fastback]

AS4Z-8213-A Name Plate

Made in Mexico. :nonono:

.

...thanks :tiphat2:

...those would look great on the front of a mailbox :biggrin:

[JTB]

AS4Z-8213-A Name Plate

Made in Mexico. :nonono:

.

Thought JoeGee said these Badges were made in SOTA?

[68fastback]

...available 29% off (#3):

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5895&d=1306291336

[Tommy Gun]

My cost at the dealer would have been about $20.

I found all this out when going through my 3 month ordeal.

That's what made this whole thing worse is knowing how cheap the part was.

[Tommy Gun]

Thought JoeGee said these Badges were made in SOTA?


What is SOTA ?

[King Cobra]

What is SOTA ?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sota

:tease2:

[JTB]

What is SOTA ?

Minnesota

[JTB]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sota

:tease2:



:spitcopy:

[The Bone]

Looking forward to the story TG.
I had a sticker on the rad cover come lose and so I went to the dealer to get a new one under warranty and when it came in someone stapled it to the paper work. I didnt notice at first but when I got ready to put it on I noticed the holes. I took it back to the dealer and wanted a new one. The service writer told me that they could order a new one but it would probably be stapled to. I said lets order another one. You would never guess it came without holes. go figure that stupid sticker was $20 also

[Tommy Gun]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/sota

:tease2:


I don't have a clue what any of that said. :nonono:

.

[Tommy Gun]

Looking forward to the story TG.
I had a sticker on the rad cover come lose and so I went to the dealer to get a new one under warranty and when it came in someone stapled it to the paper work. I didnt notice at first but when I got ready to put it on I noticed the holes. I took it back to the dealer and wanted a new one. The service writer told me that they could order a new one but it would probably be stapled to. I said lets order another one. You would never guess it came without holes. go figure that stupid sticker was $20 also



:ohsnap:

[Gr8snkbite]

I don't have a clue what any of that said. :nonono:

.

Not surprising.....:tease2:

[68fastback]

...so, basically, Minnesota means little old one?

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5902&d=1306377052 :haha:



:tiptoe: . . . :hiding:

[Joe G]

AS4Z-8213-A Name Plate

Made in Mexico. :nonono:

.


Thought JoeGee said these Badges were made in SOTA?

I know some of them are. I've been to the plant quite a few times recently. I was actually with 2 of the sons of the owner all week at a VIP conference.



Would be interesting to see what the quality differences would be between the :bandit: vs. :unitedstates: versions (if they both make the same size one).

[Tommy Gun]

I know some of them are. I've been to the plant quite a few times recently. I was actually with 2 of the sons of the owner all week at a VIP conference.



Would be interesting to see what the quality differences would be between the :bandit: vs. :unitedstates: versions (if they both make the same size one).



And did you get any samples? :trouble:

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[CH53Driver]

...so, basically, Minnesota means little old one?

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=5902&d=1306377052 :haha:



:tiptoe: . . . :hiding:

:giggle:

[Joe G]

And did you get any samples? :trouble:

.

You didn't ask. :reporter:

[Tommy Gun]

:doh2:

[The Bone]

Have you solved the problem. :popcorn:

[Gr8snkbite]

Have you solved the problem. :popcorn:

:haha:

[Tommy Gun]

Have you solved the problem. :popcorn:


Yes, just waiting on some emails to file the formal complaint.

Some of these people are big wigs in the company that I shouldn't b able to contact by email, but I am.

.

[Joe G]

Yes, just waiting on some emails to file the formal complaint.

Some of these people are big wigs in the company that I shouldn't b able to contact by email, but I am.

.
:waiting2:

[Joe G]

I know some of them are. I've been to the plant quite a few times recently. I was actually with 2 of the sons of the owner all week at a VIP conference.

.


Was out with these guys again today.

Saw a big run of Raptor plates, and the tri-bar Mustang faux rear gas caps. They said they were making special Boss 302 ones last week, but I couldn't see them.



And did you get any samples? :trouble:

.

I forgot again to get one for you. :sorry:

[Alloy Dave]

AS4Z-8213-A Name Plate

Made in Mexico. :nonono:

.I had a friend once who owned a business. He bought some "made in the USA" tags for on his machines. The tags said "Made in China" on the back of them. :irony:

[JTB]

I had a friend once who owned a business. He bought some "made in the USA" tags for on his machines. The tags said "Made in China" on the back of them. :irony:



http://www.infofootballonline.com/national_teams/flag_china.gif = http://jewettgallery.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/borg.jpg sooner or later, they will need to be DEFEATED.