4WD in large trucks

[Black Vert SS]

I am thinking of buying a new F750 bucket truck. Because of the right of way clearing I do I was considering getting a 4WD. Does any one have any experience with larger trucks and the wear on the front drive train? Is any one manufacteror better than another?

Any guidance would be appreciated.

[HSURB]

This is way, way, way over my head. The F750 are great looking trucks. Something a guy needs to have to drive through his ex-wifes lawn.

HSURB®

[Tommy Gun]

Wrong Forum :look:

[Black Vert SS]

Wrong Forum :look:

The forum says F series

An f-750 is an F series :doh2:

[Joe G]

TG doesn't read back. :look:

[Birdman]

Check out the 1:49 mark on this video...some very cool trucks shown here


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtX8AUiaWX4

[Birdman]

Some information and specs here>https://www.fleet.ford.com/showroom/2008fleetshowroom/2008-F750.asp

[Black Vert SS]

Come to find out that Ford doesn't offer a 4wd in that size truck. Will have to go with either a Freightliner or an International. I am also learning about the new emmissions. International has an electronic unit and all others have a Urea system. My mechanic tells me to stay away from the Urea and the truck builder (who handles all makes) says that International is having major problems with theri units. Now I don't know which way to go. :doh2:

[Joe G]

Come to find out that Ford doesn't offer a 4wd in that size truck. Will have to go with either a Freightliner or an International. I am also learning about the new emmissions. International has an electronic unit and all others have a Urea system. My mechanic tells me to stay away from the Urea and the truck builder (who handles all makes) says that International is having major problems with theri units. Now I don't know which way to go. :doh2:

Get one with the Cummins diesel.

[CH53Driver]

Get one with the Cummins diesel.

Stop Stroking and start Cummin. :look:

[JTB]

Check out the 1:49 mark on this video...some very cool trucks shown here


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QtX8AUiaWX4




:wow2:860 ft lbs of TORQUE! :wtg:

[HSURB]

The Tier 4 Emission Standards are going to add significant cost to any trucks, buses, construction equipment, etc.

HSURB®

[VaporDude]

Are you sure you want to go new on this? I have been looking at some used ones on E-Bay and the local Craig's List. I was going to see if my buddy wants to expand his mowing service to include tree service and I would help provide the truck.

How tall do you need the bucket to go?

Are you getting a chipper with it?

Do you need the chipper bed/dump?

[Black Vert SS]

Are you sure you want to go new on this? I have been looking at some used ones on E-Bay and the local Craig's List. I was going to see if my buddy wants to expand his mowing service to include tree service and I would help provide the truck.

How tall do you need the bucket to go?

Are you getting a chipper with it?

Do you need the chipper bed/dump?
I use a 65 foot reach Terex bucket. I already have 3 bucket trucks w/ forestry bodies and 2 forestry body trucks as spares. I am doing more right of way clearing and need to go off road more than in the past.
I have 5 chippers - all diesel w/ 170 hp engines that can continually feed a 20 inch log.
The international trucks use an electronic emission and my mechanic who works for a school bus company says those are the best. The international costs about $9000 more than all the others. The truck manufactorer says the Urea emissions are the best and all the other engine companies use them. The only problem is you have to keep filling the urea tank. He says the electronic system has had major problems, the mechanic says otherwise, I don't know which way to go.

[Tommy Gun]

:wow2: You got stuff. :grin:

[Birdman]

I use a 65 foot reach Terex bucket. I already have 3 bucket trucks w/ forestry bodies and 2 forestry body trucks as spares. I am doing more right of way clearing and need to go off road more than in the past.
I have 5 chippers - all diesel w/ 170 hp engines that can continually feed a 20 inch log.
The international trucks use an electronic emission and my mechanic who works for a school bus company says those are the best. The international costs about $9000 more than all the others. The truck manufactorer says the Urea emissions are the best and all the other engine companies use them. The only problem is you have to keep filling the urea tank. He says the electronic system has had major problems, the mechanic says otherwise, I don't know which way to go.

Maybe you should get a second or third opinion from other sources...it may help you to make a more informed decision...like most products today from washing machines to trucks we are affected by Big Gov regulations which make our decisions more difficult than they would have been otherwise. :shades:

[Joe G]

The truck manufactorer says the Urea emissions are the best and all the other engine companies use them. The only problem is you have to keep filling the urea tank.

Snoopy can help. :dogpee:

[Black Vert SS]

I use a 65 foot reach Terex bucket. I already have 3 bucket trucks w/ forestry bodies and 2 forestry body trucks as spares. I am doing more right of way clearing and need to go off road more than in the past.
I have 5 chippers - all diesel w/ 170 hp engines that can continually feed a 20 inch log.
The international trucks use an electronic emission and my mechanic who works for a school bus company says those are the best. The international costs about $9000 more than all the others. The truck manufactorer says the Urea emissions are the best and all the other engine companies use them. The only problem is you have to keep filling the urea tank. He says the electronic system has had major problems, the mechanic says otherwise, I don't know which way to go.

Maybe you should get a second or third opinion from other sources...it may help you to make a more informed decision...like most products today from washing machines to trucks we are affected by Big Gov regulations which make our decisions more difficult than they would have been otherwise. :shades:
I agree, George. I am going to call some other folks tomorrow. I have also been trying to find comparisions between the 2 systems on the internet. The truck I want with the cummins is already around $155,000. If I went with the international I will be adding around 10 grand to that. I will certianly weigh things out before investing that much.

[Vette Killer]

The Tier 4 Emission Standards are going to add significant cost to any trucks, buses, construction equipment, etc.

HSURB®


Tier 4 has been out for a long time in the on-highway market, it is just now coming to the off-road market.

Yes, urea is a pain if you work in the boonies but it is readily available in any major center now as it has been the platform most truck engine manufactures have gone with.

Yes, there are problems with the Navistar electronics; there generally is with any engine software that has the more stringent emissions package, remember the 2nd last generation of Ford F350 diesels that would go into regen at an idle and burn people on the sidewalk?

If you can wait look at the Cat truck for next year; SCR after-treatment with no urea......if you can't wait I would go with a used unit for now as these interim strategy units are going to take a beating on resale value after others catch-up with Cat in the non-urea SCR technology.

http://www.drivecat.com/

[Tommy Gun]

Tier 4 has been out for a long time in the on-highway market, it is just now coming to the off-road market.

Yes, urea is a pain if you work in the boonies but it is readily available in any major center now as it has been the platform most truck engine manufactures have gone with.

Yes, there are problems with the Navistar electronics; there generally is with any engine software that has the more stringent emissions package, remember the 2nd last generation of Ford F350 diesels that would go into regen at an idle and burn people on the sidewalk?

If you can wait look at the Cat truck for next year; SCR after-treatment with no urea......if you can't wait I would go with a used unit for now as these interim strategy units are going to take a beating on resale value after others catch-up with Cat in the non-urea SCR technology.

http://www.drivecat.com/




I don't understand a single word you just posted. :ohsnap:

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[Black Vert SS]

Tier 4 has been out for a long time in the on-highway market, it is just now coming to the off-road market.

Yes, urea is a pain if you work in the boonies but it is readily available in any major center now as it has been the platform most truck engine manufactures have gone with.

Yes, there are problems with the Navistar electronics; there generally is with any engine software that has the more stringent emissions package, remember the 2nd last generation of Ford F350 diesels that would go into regen at an idle and burn people on the sidewalk?

If you can wait look at the Cat truck for next year; SCR after-treatment with no urea......if you can't wait I would go with a used unit for now as these interim strategy units are going to take a beating on resale value after others catch-up with Cat in the non-urea SCR technology.

http://www.drivecat.com/


Thanks VK. Maybe getting something used now would be the way to go. I will certianly consider that too. I do like Cat products (and my wife owns a bunch of their stocks)