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Quagmire
05-13-2011, 01:03 AM
I was up in Ft Wayne, IA recently and saw this beautiful 1970 Mach 1 in the hotel parking lot this past Sunday evening. I was literally drooling over this car, it was so beautiful. I've always carried a torch for the Mach 1, and this is by far the nicest example I've ever seen (aside from the ones I saw in dealer showrooms when I was a kid).

From the placard on the dash, the car had been in an auto auction and the asking price was 70K, and I don't believe that it sold.

On the way home we went through Bowling Green, KY so we stopped at the National Corvette museum. I won't bother posting the corvette pics I took, but they also had an "American Muscle Car" exhibit going on, and there was a beautiful 1968 GT500 on display. I'm including a pic of that car as well.

Hope you all enjoy the pics.

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Joe G
05-13-2011, 01:09 AM
:drool:


Beautiful cars!

Birdman
05-13-2011, 01:25 AM
Always love the 69-70 MachI's that red one is sweet.

VaporDude
05-13-2011, 01:50 AM
I would love to have a Mach I. Especially the 69.

Gr8snkbite
05-13-2011, 02:23 AM
Sweet....:wtg:

68fastback
05-13-2011, 05:02 AM
Sweet! My buddy Jerry Hilton had one when I still had my '68 fastback. Those 428's were torque-monsters (for back then).

Darkside
05-13-2011, 01:23 PM
I had a 69 Mach 1 once. Still wish I had it.

Shlbylvr
05-13-2011, 01:37 PM
OH beautiful!!!

Quagmire
05-13-2011, 04:46 PM
Glad that everyone enjoyed the pics. I was out in that parking lot several times that evening, admiring the car. I was a bit sad the next morning when it was gone.

68fastback: So that Mach 1 had a 428 Cobra Jet engine, assuming the hood scoop was correct? I just ran a calculator, and the 5.4 liter GT500 engine only has 329.5 cubic inches? What's up with that? That 7 liter 428 must have been a monster engine.

VaporDude
05-13-2011, 06:15 PM
That is a sweet car. You didn't happen to see the license plate on the truck did you? Any idea what was in the other truck?

Quagmire
05-13-2011, 06:33 PM
No, I didn't think to get the license plate on the truck. Sorry. The other truck was unrelated to the Mach 1.

Orf
06-13-2011, 01:15 PM
Rather than start a new thread, I'll just hijack this one temporarily.

I have a friend who asked me a question that I really can't answer intelligently. (For the record, there are very few questions that I can answer that way.)

He found a 1970 Mach 1 for sale. 60,000 original miles. Original engine. 4 speed. Yellow. He was told there is "a little surface rust, and it needs to be repainted", but otherwise it is in excellent shape. He was also told the engine is a 429 CJ, which is impossible for a 1970 as the Boss was the only 1970 Mustang that could be had with a 429 CJ. I'm betting the info was misconstrued and this is a 428 CJ.

Question is, what is a good price range for this car? I say range, as the rust and paint issue is a huge variable. I'm thinking high 20's to low 30's, but I could be way off base.

Normally I would spend some time checking online, but I just don't have the time to devote today. I figured the next best thing is to get the consensus from this group.

VaporDude
06-13-2011, 02:47 PM
This would be very hard to try and figure a value on without actually seeing the car. Prices can go from one end of the spectrum to the other depending on condition and its location. That car in CA can get more out of it then it would if it were in MN. The best thing to do is to get it appraised or if it has recently been appraised.

Orf
06-13-2011, 03:37 PM
Appraisal isn't an option. I wanted to try to give my friend a reasonable range, to see if the asking price is in line.

Carnut
06-13-2011, 04:17 PM
As described, that range is about right.

This assumes that everything is original and the risk factor associated without a full inspection of the car. This cars can have serious body rot issues that are covered up over the years.

If everything but the paint were truly near perfect, then the value could go upwards more toward the $40k range or even a little higher. Given the paint is so shot, I would bet there are a lot of other things that really need attention. Hopefully this helps.

68fastback
06-13-2011, 05:09 PM
I'm pretty sure there were two 429s available in 1970 ...the "R" was the 429 CJ (with a Rochester/Carter?? carb sourced from GM to meet emissions) and the "Z"(?) code SCJ with big (780??) Holley.

Here's a T5 (German mustang couldn't use "Mustang" name) 70 Mach CJ listed at $8,500 (last year), (http://www.racingjunk.com/category/18/Complete_Race_Cars/post/2223870/1970-Mach-I.html)but hard to tell condition.

Orf
06-13-2011, 05:33 PM
I'm pretty sure there were two 429s available in 1970...

But not in the Mach 1, right?

King Cobra
06-13-2011, 05:46 PM
Skimming through here may help some.
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=m39&_nkw=1970+mach+1

narrowed it down a little
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/i.html?_nkw=1970%20mach%201&_fln=1&_ssov=1&_trksid=p4506.c0.m282&_mPrRngCbx=1&_udlo=5%2C000&_udhi=200%2C000

Carnut
06-13-2011, 07:37 PM
A true big block Mach 1 is worth considerably more than a 351, part of the hugh price variance. 4 speed/air cars bring more.

There are a number of fake big block cars. Buyer beware.

FYI, some sellers lie their b*tts off.