Complete grill replacement, no overlays

[Cobra Drifter]

Anyone have a shop or contact that has or can make me a new replacement grill (upper and lower) out of billit aluminum? Looking for black and something similar to the new saleen or 5.0 grills.

I need this ASAP.

Thanks

[Darkside]

How quick is ASAP. I have my guy in NC who built mine but it wasn't done ASAP. I can do a virtual introduction if you want....

[Cobra Drifter]

What does the grill look like? I wanted one like the 11 MY 5.0 or Saleen black grills. Its about 9 back but meaty bars, not like those little billit grills.
I would say need it in my hands by mid september. 3 BIG shows from then until sema.

[Darkside]

What does the grill look like? I wanted one like the 11 MY 5.0 or Saleen black grills. Its about 9 back but meaty bars, not like those little billit grills.
I would say need it in my hands by mid september. 3 BIG shows from then until sema.

Here is a old pic of the Darkmobile, but the grill overlay can be done anyway you want.

[Cobra Drifter]

Its a replacement though not an overlay, right?

[Darkside]

Its a replacement though not an overlay, right?

Yes. I haven't seen anyone else with a replacement, so I had one made.

[Cobra Drifter]

Cervinis makes a replacement but its that 11 bar billit in black or silver. Too many bars for my taste.
I bought it last december but didnt like it even enough to try to install it. Sold it soon after

[Darkside]

Check your PM's.

Mike said he would do it.

[Darkside]

Fixed. :shades:

Shoot me a PM and I will give you Mike's contact info. Maybe he would be willing to make you one too...

[Cobra Drifter]

Check your PM's.

Mike said he would do it.

:woot:

Pm replied.

Thanks

[Darkside]

What did Mike say?? Will it be done in time??

[Cobra Drifter]

Just sent the email right now

[Darkside]

At least he didnt have to wait for it ... :haha:

You might. Mike has been known at times to be slow in replying to Emails in the past.

[Darkside]

Any updates???

[Cobra Drifter]

No email reply yet. Sure hes busy but time is growing short

[Darkside]

No email reply yet. Sure hes busy but time is growing short

Call him. The shop's contact info is on their website: www.autoartsinc.com

Send me a PM if that doesn't get it done. I have Mike's cell number too.

[Cobra Drifter]

Call him. The shop's contact info is on their website: www.autoartsinc.com

Send me a PM if that doesn't get it done. I have Mike's cell number too.

Thanks, will do tomorrow as I just got home - 1:05 am

[Cobra Drifter]

I just got a chance to call the shop and Mike is a cool guy. Initial grill design will be started shortly :beerchug:

[Darkside]

I just got a chance to call the shop and Mike is a cool guy. Initial grill design will be started shortly :beerchug:

About time. Hope you get it in time for SEMA

[Cobra Drifter]

He said should be no problem. :)

[Joe G]

He said should be no problem. :)

Saving this post so we can see the outcome... :ninja3:

[Cobra Drifter]

Saving this post so we can see the outcome... :ninja3:

You know the drill... "Wait for it..."

:haha:

[Joe G]

You know the drill... "Wait for it..."

:haha:



... if I remember even 10% of the history of the Darkmobile in their hands, then you'll be the one "waiting for it". :hilarious:

[Darkside]

... if I remember even 10% of the history of the Darkmobile in their hands, then you'll be the one "waiting for it". :hilarious:

Very rarely did I give them a hard deadline on a project. I just dropped off the Darkmobile with a bag of cash and said "I'll be back in a few months"

Hopefully the "Wait for it" will not happen this time as Mike knows the timeline as CD needs his grill before SEMA.

[Joe G]

I'm (mostly) just giving CD a hard time... but I do remember some of the last second firedrills you had with Mike and crew when you drove up to get the car and things weren't complete yet.

Hoping all goes smoothly for SEMA, CD. Will be cool to see what he comes up with.

[Cobra Drifter]

Mike is really cool and after talking with him and getting the ball rolling, I have every confidence in him that it will be done in time. Right now hes waiting on me for more pics of my design but Mnday he will be doing the framing of it as that doesnt change :)

[68fastback]

:wtg: CD!!

:pics: of the design :biggrin:

[Boston Mike]

Mike is really cool and after talking with him and getting the ball rolling, I have every confidence in him that it will be done in time. Right now hes waiting on me for more pics of my design but Mnday he will be doing the framing of it as that doesnt change :)

He's maki g a backup one for you, right?

[Cobra Drifter]

He's maki g a backup one for you, right?
Backup for what?

[Dad's72Mach]

Monkey wants a grill and is too scared to call Mike himself.

I want one too!

[Cobra Drifter]

how many guys want a grill? Maybe we can get the pricing down if we have multiples

[Joe G]

how many guys want a grill? Maybe we can get the pricing down if we have multiples

I'd consider one depending on the price. :waiting:

[Cobra Drifter]

It wont be cheap thats for sure as its going to be a quality built product out of quality materials.
I'll just put you down for a "pair" :haha: (upper and lower grills)

[Darkside]

OK, I asked Mike if he would be willing to do a few more sets of grills. I will let you know what he says and what the cost will be.

I will need to know what sort of mesh/filler you want to go on the grill and if you need brake duct holes in the lower grill.

[Joe G]

OK, I asked Mike if he would be willing to do a few more sets of grills. I will let you know what he says and what the cost will be.


Awesome! :webers:




I will need to know what sort of mesh/filler you want to go on the grill

Need to know what options are available and cost of each.



if you need brake duct holes in the lower grill.

Yes. I have a custom set that a friend had made for me.

[Dad's72Mach]

Awesome! :webers:


+1



Need to know what options are available and cost of each.

+1



Yes. I have a custom set that a friend had made for me.

I obviously have the wrong friends! I haven't bought the ducts is fear of drilling the grills so I'd go ahead and get them if I had a grill ready to accept them.

[Cobra Drifter]

Ive been looking at pics but cant tell still if the height of our grills is taller then the height of the 11+ MY's.
I want the beefier bars and fewer count but if I do the 4 bars that the Saleens have then it may be too much a gap if the 07-09 grills are taller.

Inquiring minds want to know :D

[rickf73]

Found this tonight in my Mustangs and Fast Fords mag.

https://cervinis.com/product.aspx?car=1&id=1208#7080

(https://cervinis.com/product.aspx?car=1&id=1208#7080)Anyone seen these up close, says they bolt bumper. Looks like a replacement for the OEM.

Looks to be easier to clean. :grin:

[Joe G]

Found this tonight in my Mustangs and Fast Fords mag.

https://cervinis.com/product.aspx?car=1&id=1208#7080

(https://cervinis.com/product.aspx?car=1&id=1208#7080)Anyone seen these up close, says they bolt bumper. Looks like a replacement for the OEM.

Looks to be easier to clean. :grin:

There was a whole bunch of stuff on that link... you talking about these?


https://cervinis.com/large.aspx?img=1289_1_big.png

[rickf73]

There was a whole bunch of stuff on that link... you talking about these?


https://cervinis.com/large.aspx?img=1289_1_big.png

Yep.

[Cobra Drifter]

Found this tonight in my Mustangs and Fast Fords mag.

https://cervinis.com/product.aspx?car=1&id=1208#7080

(https://cervinis.com/product.aspx?car=1&id=1208#7080)Anyone seen these up close, says they bolt bumper. Looks like a replacement for the OEM.

Looks to be easier to clean. :grin:
I bought that very one but in black. I turned around and sold it without even installing it.
Its a piece of #$%#. Do not order it unless you want low quality and improper fitment.
There is a reason why they discounted the prince by 50%. None are selling because the few that do get bad reviews so not many others will buy it

[Cobra Drifter]

Sent Mike a few pics and that we have a few more interested in this grill. Its going to be lots easier to clean and much better looking. Finally get rid of some of all that plastic!

[Darkside]

Sent Mike a few pics and that we have a few more interested in this grill. Its going to be lots easier to clean and much better looking. Finally get rid of some of all that plastic!

Where are the pics.....

[rickf73]

I bought that very one but in black. I turned around and sold it without even installing it.
Its a piece of #$%#. Do not order it unless you want low quality and improper fitment.
There is a reason why they discounted the prince by 50%. None are selling because the few that do get bad reviews so not many others will buy it

Good to know, thanks for the info. :tiphat2:

[Joe G]

Where are the pics..... :iagree:


:needpics:

[Shlbylvr]

:pics:

[Joe G]

:pics:

:iagree:

[Boston Mike]

Monkey wants a grill and is too scared to call Mike himself.

Actually, if you have your original plans handy, I have a very close contact now with a shop that has a 5 axis CNC machine and I think I can get one done through them possibly.

[Joe G]

Actually, if you have your original plans handy, I have a very close contact now with a shop that has a 5 axis whatchamacallit and I think I can get one done through them possibly.

:waiting2:

[Orf]

Sent Mike a few pics and that we have a few more interested in this grill. Its going to be lots easier to clean and much better looking. Finally get rid of some of all that plastic!

Put me on the list of those interested. An upper and lower grille in black would go well with black rims on an Alloy car.

Just sayin'...

[Gr8snkbite]

I bought that very one but in black. I turned around and sold it without even installing it.
Its a piece of #$%#. Do not order it unless you want low quality and improper fitment.
There is a reason why they discounted the prince by 50%. None are selling because the few that do get bad reviews so not many others will buy it

Concur, cheap crapola....and the spacing is all screwed up.....:groan:

[Joe G]

I will let you know what he says and what the cost will be.

.:waiting2:

[Darkside]

Actually, if you have your original plans handy, I have a very close contact now with a shop that has a 5 axis CNC machine and I think I can get one done through them possibly.

I am not letting anyone have my plans as they are a cooperative product between myself and Mike at Auto Arts. If I let another shop have them and they start making/selling them, I get nothing out of it.

Sorry Monkey Boy.

[Boston Mike]

I am not letting anyone have my plans as they are a cooperative product between myself and Mike at Auto Arts. If I let another shop have them and they start making/selling them, I get nothing out of it.

Sorry Monkey Boy.

you think i would allow that? nice to know i'm so highly thought of. :nonono:

guess its off to the drawing board.

[Darkside]

you think i would allow that? nice to know i'm so highly thought of. :nonono:

guess its off to the drawing board.

Its not you that I am worried about and you would be powerless to prevent it if some else is doing the work. Once someone else is working with my ideas, it is very easy to be copied.

I will Email Mike again and ask about making more grills. I would like to see everyone who wants one to get one, assuming the price is right.

Mine was NOT cheap as I had the center mounted fog lights and radar/laser detector mounts built in with the custom laser cut mesh pattern.

[Cobra Drifter]

Update: The grill frame and bars ahve been cnc'd. At the point where assembly/welding is next. Then powdercoating and shiping to me :)

[Joe G]

You gonna tell us how much they will be and if they'll make them for those who want them besides you? :trouble:

[Darkside]

You gonna tell us how much they will be and if they'll make them for those who want them besides you? :trouble:

If I had received a reply to any of the Emails that I had already sent Mike on this, I would have told you already.

[Joe G]

If I had received a reply to any of the Emails that I had already sent Mike on this, I would have told you already.Thanks.

I was just busting on CD mostly... :grin:

[Darkside]

You could order a Cobra Jet on his CC and have it delivered to me. :look:

Joe's waiting to get me a 2013 5.8L crate engine for the Darkmobile.

However, CD is doing his best Mrs Butterworth impersonation in posting an update on his grill.........taking his sweet azz time

[Cobra Drifter]

One can not rush a work of art ;)

I call in every so often for updates and questions/answers etc. They are a busy shop which is a good thing

[Cobra Drifter]

Ok called and talked to Mike again a few minutes ago. Still on track to finish in time.
I need to buy and send him a set of JLT gril bezels so he can weld them on the lower grill. Guess I will do black anadized as the whole grill is to be powdercoated black anyways so no issue with coverage is I send him my silver ones.

Going to have him make the hose connections to the back of the grill bezels too so can be easily used for brake cooling ducts or fresh air. Im going with brake cooling ducts so I "could" just order it after sema and install the hoses later since they are not an issue and wont hold up the finished product.

[Darkside]

Good to hear everything is tracking. I would hate to see it not get completed and installed in time for SEMA.

[Gr8snkbite]

Ok called and talked to Mike again a few minutes ago. Still on track to finish in time.
I need to buy and send him a set of JLT gril bezels so he can weld them on the lower grill. Guess I will do black anadized as the whole grill is to be powdercoated black anyways so no issue with coverage is I send him my silver ones.

Going to have him make the hose connections to the back of the grill bezels too so can be easily used for brake cooling ducts or fresh air. Im going with brake cooling ducts so I "could" just order it after sema and install the hoses later since they are not an issue and wont hold up the finished product.

just have Jay drop ship the bezels to Mike...

[Joe G]

just have BVMP drop ship the bezels to Mike...

:yes:


http://store.bvmperformance.com/JLT_Brake_Cooling_2007_2009_Mustang_Shelby_GT500_p/jltbck-gt500.htm

[Cobra Drifter]

JLT gave me a discount :tongue:

Talked to Mike today and should have some rough pics early next week to establish the layout before welding in place. This needs to be welded complete and off to powder coating by end of next week. This leaves just a couple days for shipping and installation. Its gonna be close!

[Joe G]

JLT gave me a discount :tongue:


And I don't?? :boink:

[Cobra Drifter]

Just talked to Mike and we havent got the grill welded yet. So Since the bezels are on yet I asked about the 3" FTBR brake cooling kit if we could duplicate a JLT bezel in 3" and he said yea but time is the issue if we do that or not.

Should have pics of the proposed layout tonight. Arg its gonna be cutting it very very close and arrive via air ship overnight and thats still cutting it super close as it still has to go to the powdercoaters before shipping.

[Darkside]

I told you to be on him like white on rice to make sure this gets done in time. I don't mean to be negative, but I hope you have a Plan B. It never hurts to be prepared.

[Cobra Drifter]

I told you to be on him like white on rice to make sure this gets done in time. I don't mean to be negative, but I hope you have a Plan B. It never hurts to be prepared.
Ive been following up the past twoo weeks but we have no progress.

Plan "B" is to just go with stock grill as its not a super major issue to be sans billit grill but i wil do all I can to be con billit grill lol

[Boston Mike]

Ive been following up the past twoo weeks but we have no progress.

Plan "B" is to just go with stock grill as its not a super major issue to be sans billit grill but i wil do all I can to be con billit grill lol


But if he doesn't have it on your car for SEMA, what's his motivation for getting it done at all............................................... ..

[Cobra Drifter]

Didnt get any pictures last night and was swamped working today. With the time difference its just too hard to be calling everyday. Its not going to happen after all as I am leaving Friday morning and it wont be here in time. Its still not even welded yet.

[Joe G]

Sorry to say, but I called this from the beginning.

He may do great work, but I just remember delay after delay with the Darkmobile and figured it would be the same here.





Hopefully it's done by SEMA 2012, CD. :look:

[Darkside]

Sorry to say, but I called this from the beginning.

+1. I was hoping this wouldn't happen. That is why I told CD to start nagging Mike in time to overcome his usual production speed.

[Cobra Drifter]

Its OK we will get it done but just not for SEMA. There's always next years SEMA ;)
I really want a new grill so I should have it for the rest of the shows after SEMA.
Just a few more big shows til the end of the year.

[Darkside]

Its OK we will get it done but just not for SEMA. There's always next years SEMA ;)
I really want a new grill so I should have it for the rest of the shows after SEMA.
Just a few more big shows til the end of the year.

I would still give Mike a good ration of sh!t for not getting the grill done in time for SEMA. He has talked for so long about getting his work displayed at SEMA and then he blows his shot.

[CH53Driver]

I would still give Mike a good ration of sh!t for not getting the grill done in time for SEMA. He has talked for so long about getting his work displayed at SEMA and then he blows his shot.

:goodpost:

[Cobra Drifter]

True but I have many things to manage and I cant spend 100% of my time on just one product.
Still large installs to do and have done and 4 days left!!!

[Darkside]

True but I have many things to manage and I cant spend 100% of my time on just one product.
Still large installs to do and have done and 4 days left!!!

If you would have asked for help in dealing with Mike, I would have gladly done it as I have the experience of doing it and they always take my calls since I have done so much work with them.

[Cobra Drifter]

Oh he took my calls but after two weeks of calls I never could get pics of the proposed design so welding couldnt start.
Oh Im back from SEMA :D

[Joe G]

Did you make the deadline?




:look2:

[Cobra Drifter]

I made the deadline sans grill but as in the car was in the North Lobby saturday but detailed until Sunday and Monday I had my decals brought to me by a friend that had to get his made too.
So Yes made the deadline when the show opened on Tuesday but should have had the decals on Sun :shrug:

[Tommy Gun]

Anyone have a shop or contact that has or can make me a new replacement grill (upper and lower) out of billit aluminum? Looking for black and something similar to the new saleen or 5.0 grills.

I need this ASAP.

Thanks


Did you ever get this done?

[Cobra Drifter]

Back on this n mike said the top grill is tack welded but needs a gt500 to test fit before going farther.
Anyone live near the shop?

[Shlbylvr]

Good grief, I thought This was done already

[Cobra Drifter]

LOL well it fell between the cracks

[Gr8snkbite]

Back on this n mike said the top grill is tack welded but needs a gt500 to test fit before going farther.
Anyone live near the shop?

Carl on here isnt far. We met up when I was monitoring DSs car getting done.

He's 08SGT1234 on here.

[Tommy Gun]

LOL well it fell between the cracks


Must have been a Sharun size crack. :look:


.

[Joe G]

Good grief, I thought This was done already:goodpost:


It's this thread like 3 years old?!? :faint:

[Joe G]

Must have been a Sharun size crack. :look:


.:surprised:









(I decided not to post a "sharun sized crack" picture that HSURB had sent me a while ago... :look:)

[Darkside]

LOL well it fell between the cracks

In talking to Mike, I found out that they moved the shop to a new location. That could have added to the delay.

Like I said from the start, Mike does great work, BUT to meet a deadline you need to be on him like Timmy on free Coors Light.

[Cobra Drifter]

Yea when I talked to him the other day he told me they were still in the middle of moving the shop.

He still needs to fab up the lower grill too still

[Joe G]

He still needs to fab up the lower grill too stillReady for SEMA 2018??

[Cobra Drifter]

Ready for SEMA 2018??
Maybe... by that time it will be a classic lol

[Tommy Gun]

I'm picking up our new grill today.

Had them assemble it, one less thing for me to do. :popcorn:


Same grill as we had before.



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:shades:


Gonna take our old one, still clean and usuable, to work for Friday cook outs. Have ourselves a little party on company dime. :wtg:

.

[Joe G]

I miss having a grill... :nonono:

[Cobra Drifter]

I dont like the aluminum grills. Thats why I want mine wrinkle black powdercoated :look:

[Cobra Drifter]

Called again today and they are still in the midsts of mornig and nothing has progressed. :(
Said maybe in June. Now hes missed SEMA 2011 and the upcoming 5.0 Magazine open house on the 20th. Hope we dont miss SEMA 2012 :look:

[Darkside]

Called again today and they are still in the midsts of mornig and nothing has progressed. :(
Said maybe in June. Now hes missed SEMA 2011 and the upcoming 5.0 Magazine open house on the 20th. Hope we dont miss SEMA 2012 :look:

CD - You need to hound Mike like he owes you money if you want it done on your timeline. Every time I dropped the car off, I told him when I would be back for it and he knew that not having it done on time would not be a good thing.

Call him every freaking day or tell him it has to be done by a specific date or you will get strung along until he feels like getting it done.

[Joe G]

CD - I'd start looking for a different guy ASAP. Mike obviously does good work, but as DS has said many times his sense of urgency is not just lacking - it sounds like he's never had it to begin with.

[Cobra Drifter]

True but I have given specific deadlines and they are still missed. I hate and dont want to hound someone that is helping me. He says its nearly done so not much point in trying to go with someone else and then have him want to charge me when he finishes his.

I think thiis year may be my last SEMA appearance with the Shelby. Need to get plans and money for the next stang :look:

[Shlbylvr]

True but I have given specific deadlines and they are still missed. I hate and dont want to hound someone that is helping me. He says its nearly done so not much point in trying to go with someone else and then have him want to charge me when he finishes his.

I think thiis year may be my last SEMA appearance with the Shelby. Need to get plans and money for the next stang :look:

If it is nearly done WTF Is the hold up?? BTW aren't you paying for this? If so he is not helping you.. He is doing work for you

It has been 6 months since SEMA and wasn't it nearly done then?

Seriously, You should tell him you want it by a specific day.. then start hounding him every day for a date of completion.

[Cobra Drifter]

I guess Im just too nice :grin:

[Shlbylvr]

I guess Im just too nice :grin:

I'd say.

[Darkside]

I guess Im just too nice :grin:

Being nice is not the issue. Mike is working for YOU. YOU need to act like the man who has hired Mike to make a product. Giving someone clear guidance and instructions is appreciated, not a bother.

Be the boss. Don't accept missed deadlines.

[Dad's72Mach]

True but I have given specific deadlines and they are still missed. I hate and dont want to hound someone that is helping me. He says its nearly done so not much point in trying to go with someone else and then have him want to charge me when he finishes his.



You could always sell the extra to someone else. :innocent:



:pimp:

[The Bone]

CD you may need to invest in some tools and do it yourself. Sometimes it's cheaper that way

[Tommy Gun]

Joe knows grills, ask him.

.

[68fastback]

CD you may need to invest in some tools and do it yourself. Sometimes it's cheaper that way
...l
+1 ...ike this deluxe persuasion tool from Ace Hardware :banana:

9119:giggle:

[68fastback]

Joe knows grills, ask him.

.

:goodpost:

[Joe G]

Joe knows grills, ask him.

.:goodone:

[Darkside]

...l
+1 ...ike this deluxe persuasion tool from Ace Hardware :banana:

9119:giggle:

Never even had to mention that to get my work done on time.

I may mention it next time as I will be taking it back to NC one last time this fall before some others things are set to possibly happen..........

[Boston Mike]

Never even had to mention that to get my work done on time.

I may mention it next time as I will be taking it back to NC one last time this fall before some others things are set to possibly happen..........

:detective:

[Darkside]

:detective:

Just the final once over for some small fixes before any possible early 2013 relocation occurs......like possibly to Texico

[Boston Mike]

Just the final once over for some small fixes before any possible early 2013 relocation occurs......like possibly to Texico

:woohoo:

[Darkside]

:woohoo:

Its not set yet, but I have a decent shot assuming I make it through school.

[Boston Mike]

Its not set yet, but I have a decent shot assuming I make it through school.

you will crush the rebellion.........................er.............. ..competition.....................too bad it's not closer to DFW though.

[The Bone]

Darkside
Do you where the suite when you drop off the car and give them a demonstration on what a light saber can do?

[Darkside]

Darkside
Do you where the suite when you drop off the car and give them a demonstration on what a light saber can do?

Being in Raleigh, which isn't too far from Fort Bragg, Mike has a good appreciation for Special Operations troops (and the folks who support them :grin:) can do.

No light saber needed.

[Cobra Drifter]

I have a light saber

[Darkside]

I have a light saber

If you don't have your grill by the time I take the Darkmobile back to Mike, I will talk to him about your grill when I see him.

[Boston Mike]

I have a big saber


:tmi:

[Cobra Drifter]

:tmi:
:look:

[Boston Mike]

:look:

:ban:

[Cobra Drifter]

:ban:
Why do you want to get banned? Sorry but I wont ban you even at your own request. ;)