Header Gaskets...

[onecrazydog]

I have an header exhaust leak and after retightening the bolts(what a pita), it still leaks so I am guessing the gasket is toast... Do I have to use kook header gaskets that are obviously not very good and have to order, or can I use oem gaskets?

[Tommy Gun]

I thought they were clearance fitted, no gasket?

[onecrazydog]

I am sure there are gaskets but I could be wrong...

[Tommy Gun]

Okay. :look:


http://www.mustang50magazine.com/techarticles/m5lp_1007_2008_ford_shelby_gt500_exhaust_test/photo_05.html

[Iceman]

I would think anything that made the seal would work. We used to use anything we could find up to peanut butter for old Motor cross bikes and it always worked. The American Racing headers have a nice metal gasket that is reusable....meaning when some moron takes the headers off to have them heat coated a year later the same gaskets still worked fine :) Good luck

[onecrazydog]

Thanks Iceman, I am going to go with new factory gaskets!! Taking it in to get done tomorrow... I am thinking this isn't going to be cheap, but no way am I attemping it after the pita just to try and tighten the bolts...

Only the driver side is leaking but I will get both sides done at the same time...

[Joe G]

Thanks Iceman, I am going to go with new factory gaskets!! Taking it in to get done tomorrow... I am thinking this isn't going to be cheap, but no way am I attemping it after the pita just to try and tighten the bolts...

Only the driver side is leaking but I will get both sides done at the same time...


Won't the guy who installed them fix it for you at no charge? It was done earlier this year, right??

[onecrazydog]

Won't the guy who installed them fix it for you at no charge? It was done earlier this year, right??

I do have 12,000 km on it since the exhaust install, so I don't blame Chris for the header gasket leak... Everything he made is still perfect!!

[onecrazydog]

I stopped at the dealership today to drop off some gifts for my mechanic!! He had one side almost finished!! He pulled the k member to make it easier so they will have to do an alignment again too... Should be ready to pick up tomorrow!! I can't believe kook would even send out the gaskets that was on it... Felt, with a thin layer of steel...

[Iceman]

Dropping the K-member is the way it should be one on these cars so that's a good sign. Also a good time to change the motor mounts if you have the need:)

[overtime]

Dropping the K-member is the way it should be one on these cars so that's a good sign. Also a good time to change the motor mounts if you have the need:)

Iceman,
Do you have any suggestions on stronger motor mounts? Most of the ones I have found lower the motor, but I would like to keep the motor at the stock height. My headers are going in this fall and I need to find some motor mounts.

Thanks for your help
Steve

[Iceman]

Mine were machined down to lower the engine a bit. I rung the American Racing long tubes and they fit up nice and tight so it's a non issue - maybe .5 inch or so.


Thant being said I think if you buy them with out machining them down they are the stock height (I think). The brand I have is: prothane - http://www.prothane.com/

[overtime]

Thanks. Prothane was what I was looking at, just can't find the correct motor mounts based on year, model application. I'll keep searching.

[Tommy Gun]

Call them. :popcorn:

[onecrazydog]

Woot, got my car back today... Not so woot, :spend::faint:

At least that exhaust tick is gone...

[Tommy Gun]

Seems like doing this would cost about as much as doing an initial install. :faint:

[Darkside]

Woot, got my car back today... Not so woot, :spend::faint:

At least that exhaust tick is gone...

Since when did spending some cash scare the Dog????

You have to pay to play.....

[onecrazydog]

Seems like doing this would cost about as much as doing an initial install. :faint:


Yes... These are one expensive set of headers!!

[Joe G]

Yes... These are one expensive set of headers!!

That bites!

[onecrazydog]

That bites!

After the next victim the pain will go away!!

I think I blew some of the ceramic stuffing out of one of the mufflers, one side is way louder than the other... Sounds like an open header thru an aluminum can... I will see Chris in Calgary tomorrow to see if he can restuff it... Then everything should be good again!!

[mustang loco]

That bites!

+1,hope Chris will be able to re-stuff that muffler

[Tommy Gun]

After the next victim the pain will go away!!

I think I blew some of the ceramic stuffing out of one of the mufflers, one side is way louder than the other... Sounds like an open header thru an aluminum can... I will see Chris in Calgary tomorrow to see if he can restuff it... Then everything should be good again!!

Is this possible w/ stock cats?

I think one side of mine is much louder, never suspected the cat may be blown out? :waiting:

.

[68fastback]

...I thought OCD was talking about a muffler, not a cat?

Stacy, does he 'line' the mffler with a ceramic mesh of some sort? Hope it's an easy fix.

[onecrazydog]

...I thought OCD was talking about a muffler, not a cat?

Stacy, does he 'line' the mffler with a ceramic mesh of some sort? Hope it's an easy fix.

Yes, I don't have cats on the car so it has to be the muffler... It is exactly how you described it Dan, I would imagine it just has to be cut open, restuffed and welded back shut...

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/IMG_8996.JPG

[Tommy Gun]

:oops:

[onecrazydog]

:oops:

Cats can melt though, I am sure a bad cat would affect the sound too...

[Tommy Gun]

When you said ceramic, I thought you were talking about the cats.

I've wondered if part of one of my cats broke up a bit at one point. (most likely at Daytona when it spit out one of my O2 sensors)

Don't know if that is even possible.

With all the bad tunes from Jon Lund I've had in my car anything is possible.

Wish I never put his tunes in my car knowing I would be tracking it. :nonono:

.

[68fastback]

Yes, I don't have cats on the car so it has to be the muffler... It is exactly how you described it Dan, I would imagine it just has to be cut open, restuffed and welded back shut...

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/IMG_8996.JPG

Nice!! ...those just look awesome! ...straight-thru ...like old-style glass packs ;-) I'm struggling a bit with this: seems there'd be no point in packing it loosely -- tho it may be. ...and I would not think it can get hot enough to melt a ceramic. Will be interesting to see what he finds when it's opened ...hope it's a simple fix.

[onecrazydog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB1MbuhPyOA

[68fastback]

Dog, that sounds absolutely killer with headphones!! :yes:

I first listened just on the computer speakers and the one on the right just sounded deeper. Then I listened with headphones and the one one the left has lots more crispness -- less attenuation of the highs -- like it would 'brap' like crazy when you wound it out ...makes sense that would be from less/missing/degraded accoustic packing, but why it would do that in such a short time seems a bit mysterious. When's your buddy going to open it?

[onecrazydog]

Dog, that sounds absolutely killer with headphones!! :yes:

I first listened just on the computer speakers and the one on the right just sounded deeper. Then I listened with headphones and the one one the left has lots more crispness -- less attenuation of the highs -- like it would 'brap' like crazy when you wound it out ...makes sense that would be from less/missing/degraded accoustic packing, but why it would do that in such a short time seems a bit mysterious. When's your buddy going to open it?

Oh yeah, it gets really really loud when you step on it, total heatscore... I am waiting to find out when he can fix it... Soon I hope... It is a three hour drive to his place too...


Ok, I got out my mirror and flashlight... There is packing missing for sure... I can see the cannister walls in some places... No idea what the scoop is, stuff happens, but I am not very happy about it... The one note in the exhaust that I don't like is really amplified now thru the one muffler... I haven't even driven it since I get it back from getting the header gaskets replaced... At least that ticking is gone! Lol...

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030263.JPG

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030265.JPG

[onecrazydog]

Lol!! Imagine this at like 8 am everyday... Or say 11 pm on a weeknight...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X9mUncCjo


:cop3:

[Joe G]

Lol!! Imagine this at like 8 am everyday... Or say 11 pm on a weeknight...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X9mUncCjo


:cop3:


:haha:

My neighbors would shoot me! :gun:

[68fastback]

Oh yeah, it gets really really loud when you step on it, total heatscore... I am waiting to find out when he can fix it... Soon I hope... It is a three hour drive to his place too...


Ok, I got out my mirror and flashlight... There is packing missing for sure... I can see the cannister walls in some places... No idea what the scoop is, stuff happens, but I am not very happy about it... The one note in the exhaust that I don't like is really amplified now thru the one muffler... I haven't even driven it since I get it back from getting the header gaskets replaced... At least that ticking is gone! Lol...

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030263.JPG

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030265.JPG


3 hours ...what a PITA ...hope he treats you right, dog.

[onecrazydog]

3 hours ...what a PITA ...hope he treats you right, dog.

Chris is a great guy, I know he will take care of me!! Turns out that ceramic stuffing is not recommended for supercharged cars as it can blow out over time, so he is going to do a stainless packing wrap around the Perf tube, then the ceramic stuffing...

The drive is ok too because I have relatives there, so I always get a visit in!! The F150 could use a good higway trip to blow the carbon out!!

[Joe G]

Are you towing it there?Will he fix it the same day or do you need to make 2 trips? :doh2:

[68fastback]

Chris is a great guy, I know he will take care of me!! Turns out that ceramic stuffing is not recommended for supercharged cars as it can blow out over time, so he is going to do a stainless packing wrap around the Perf tube, then the ceramic stuffing...

The drive is ok too because I have relatives there, so I always get a visit in!! The F150 could use a good higway trip to blow the carbon out!!

...sounds like a good solution!!

...and sounds like a plan :grin:

[onecrazydog]

Are you towing it there?Will he fix it the same day or do you need to make 2 trips? :doh2:

I will need to make two trips, well one more... I dropped them off today!! I don't mind at all, it's a great road trip... Plus it means I will get my car back on the road quicker!!

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/mufflers.JPG

Easy to remove, undid the clamp and they slide out towards the rear of the car, didn't have to touch the mid pipe at all!! Sweeeet!!

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/clamp.JPG

[onecrazydog]

...sounds like a good solution!!

...and sounds like a plan :grin:

Change of plans!! LOL... Chris is going to fill the cans with old school steel stuffing, it will add about a pound to each muffler, so they will be about 9 pounds!! He will cut the cans at the back, sand them down smooth, refill them, and then weld them shut... So the tips will be about an 1/8th closer to the car, I like that idea...

This beast is getting a new exhaust system,

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Sweet_Rides/012.JPG

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Sweet_Rides/011.JPG

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Sweet_Rides/010.JPG

[mustang loco]

Good news on the exhaust:wtg: and very nice FordGT

[onecrazydog]

Good news on the exhaust:wtg: and very nice FordGT


I was drooling over the GT...

WANT!!

[68fastback]

I :drool: over Ford GTs even more than BOSS 9s.

[CH53Driver]

Nice GT! Is he on the FGT forum?

[mustang loco]

I was drooling over the GT...

WANT!!


I :drool: over Ford GTs even more than BOSS 9s.

+1

[onecrazydog]

Nice GT! Is he on the FGT forum?

I dunno... Not even sure who's car it is...

[CH53Driver]

I dunno... Not even sure who's car it is...

Ah, never mind then. I know a couple of the guys on the GT forum are from Edmonton.

[Gr8snkbite]

Lol!! Imagine this at like 8 am everyday... Or say 11 pm on a weeknight...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_X9mUncCjo


:cop3:

Your pass side tip sticks out further than the driver side.....fix it...

[Darkside]

Your pass side tip sticks out further than the driver side.....fix it...

You would notice that.........only because its at eye level for you

[onecrazydog]

Your pass side tip sticks out further than the driver side.....fix it...

Right now I would be happy to just have them back on the car...

[Joe G]

Right now I would be happy to just have them back on the car...

Will they be back by next spring?

:waiting2:

[onecrazydog]

Will they be back by next spring?

:waiting2:

I guess I can't really complain as it has only been 4 days since I dropped them off, if he drops what he is doing to work on mine then another guy out there is playing the waiting game too then... I sure don't wish that on anyone!! It is just so frustrating because it is a one off systems so I can't even stick my factory mufflers on for the time being... It is the most beautiful weekend we have had all summer too...

[onecrazydog]

Today I am missing a local car show that I had been looking forward to all summer... I am going to go and say hi to some friends that will be there...

I am also going to order a different set of mufflers if I don't hear anything by Monday... It isn't my fault the stuffing blew out, yet I am paying for it in down time...

I know that in the big picture of life that this is a pretty small issue to have, so I am sure not whining... I am a fairly easy going person that is just a tad frustrated with the situation...

[Darkside]

Today I am missing a local car show that I had been looking forward to all summer... I am going to go and say hi to some friends that will be there...

I am also going to order a different set of mufflers if I don't hear anything by Monday... It isn't my fault the stuffing blew out, yet I am paying for it in down time...

I know that in the big picture of life that this is a pretty small issue to have, so I am sure not whining... I am a fairly easy going person that is just a tad frustrated with the situation...

I know how frustrated you feel Dog. I was the saem way about Orfstock and Mustang Week. Couldn't go and had planned on going for months previously.

[onecrazydog]

I know how frustrated you feel Dog. I was the saem way about Orfstock and Mustang Week. Couldn't go and had planned on going for months previously.


You have been thru a lot with the darkmobile!!

[CH53Driver]

Today I am missing a local car show that I had been looking forward to all summer... I am going to go and say hi to some friends that will be there...

I am also going to order a different set of mufflers if I don't hear anything by Monday... It isn't my fault the stuffing blew out, yet I am paying for it in down time...

I know that in the big picture of life that this is a pretty small issue to have, so I am sure not whining... I am a fairly easy going person that is just a tad frustrated with the situation...

Sorry to hear that Dog. I loved the Corsa Sport mufflers that I got from Keith. I know they are "a little loud" (for the old people :look:) but personally I think they sounded great.

[onecrazydog]

Sorry to hear that Dog. I loved the Corsa Sport mufflers that I got from Keith. I know they are "a little loud" (for the old people :look:) but personally I think they sounded great.

I have also been looking at the mac mms mufflers that alex from TS has, they sound pretty good... Anything I try would have to be custom fit and a hassle...

:sighs: Lol!!

[onecrazydog]

WOOT!! Mufflers will be ready for pick up Friday!! Awesome news, I have a little roadtrip planned with some friends this weekend and it would have really sucked not to be able to take the Shelby!!

[Joe G]

:yay:

[Darkside]

Happy cruising Dog

[onecrazydog]

Picked them up yesterday, can barely tell they were cut open and rewelded... That shows me he didn't rush it just to get them done!! I also got a sincere apology from Chris for missing the car shows, but I never did blame him... Was just frustrated...

Going to put them on now!!

[Joe G]

Going to put them on now!!


:waiting2:

[CH53Driver]

:waiting2::waiting2:

[Joe G]

:waiting2::waiting2:

:goodpost: :goodpost: :goodpost:

[CH53Driver]

:tiphat: :tiphat: :tiphat:



:giggle:

[Shlbylvr]

:pics:

[onecrazydog]

repaired end,

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030328.JPG

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030331.JPG


I polished up the ends a bit,

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030327.JPG

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030326.JPG

[Joe G]

I polished up the ends a bit,

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030327.JPG

http://www.onecrazydog.com/pictures/albums/Rollbar_and_Exhaust/P1030326.JPG

Mo' better for sure! :wtg:

[rickf73]

:wtg:

[onecrazydog]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qjMpSN4DnYE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQ2RtEBpTPY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PQkTXpjzKA


WOOT!!

[Joe G]

:yay:



What's that clip that's on the lower airsplitter below your rear bumper?

[CH53Driver]

Sweet action.

[rickf73]

:yay:



What's that clip that's on the lower airsplitter below your rear bumper?

:goodpost:

[onecrazydog]

:yay:



What's that clip that's on the lower airsplitter below your rear bumper?

For my go pro camera...

[Joe G]

For my go pro camera...

:idea:

[Gr8snkbite]

Driver side exh fogged up your camera lens but pass side didn't.....tells me driver side is going to let loose soon......:innocent:

[onecrazydog]

Driver side exh fogged up your camera lens but pass side didn't.....tells me driver side is going to let loose soon......:innocent:

drivers side what?

[Gr8snkbite]

drivers side what?

Muffler......:groan:

[onecrazydog]

Muffler......:groan:


ok, but why?

[mustang loco]

happy to see you got her back bud':wtg:...cool vids btw

[Joe G]

ok, but why?

:waiting2:

[Gr8snkbite]

ok, but why?


:waiting2:

Don't know...just seemed odd driver side fogged up the camera lens and pass side didn't.....maybe you held it closer on that side and it picked up the exh gases....

[onecrazydog]

Yeah, or maybe a bit more moisture coming out the one side... Car was still warming up and it was the first time started in two weeks...