2 Post Lift

[Tommy Gun]

Would you consider this if you had limited space for a lift?

Why/why not?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSUAXQOoXuY


:waiting:

[Birdman]

It has a lot of nice features for someone who needs the space for other things and prefers the lift to be out of the way.


I don't like that it can only lift to 48" in height. That would be the deal breaker for me but if your garage didn't allow for anything higher it might be a great choice otherwise.

[Tommy Gun]

It has a lot of nice features for someone who needs the space for other things and prefers the lift to be out of the way.


I don't like that it can only lift to 48" in height. That would be the deal breaker for me but if your garage didn't allow for anything higher it might be a great choice otherwise.


I would only be able to get 24"-30" under the car.

Right now I have to do that in the driveway w/ jackstands, etc..

[Gr8snkbite]

Neat tool. Could be beneficial. Yet you'd have to install threaded inserts in the floor to screw to. I'd rather not.

[ati]

Good Idea if you have limited space.
This would also be great to rent for the weekend if you had a major project that required a lift.

[Tommy Gun]

Neat tool. Could be beneficial. Yet you'd have to install threaded inserts in the floor to screw to. I'd rather not.


I thought that was a cool feature. That way most of the time it is out of site. I'd probably only need it a few times a year.

[onecrazydog]

Have to make sure the floor is strong enough to hold it first... I wouldn't stand under that one though, maybe a bendpak or rotary...

[Tommy Gun]

Have to make sure the floor is strong enough to hold it first... I wouldn't stand under that one though, maybe a bendpak or rotary...


Problem is no one makes one this height. Under 87" max.

[Orf]

I don't like that it can only lift to 48" in height.

Just have MC come over to do any under car work...


:sofa:

[CH53Driver]

Just have MC come over to do any under car work...


:sofa:

:goodpost:


:rofl3:

:look:

[VaporDude]

I would only be able to get 24"-30" under the car.

Right now I have to do that in the driveway w/ jackstands, etc..

That's the perfect height for Keith. :grin:

[Joe G]

Considering the work you do to the Turd (and a limited amount to the GT500), I think it would be worth it to you.

Yes you won't be able to stand under it, or even kneel under it (as everyone else said... just get Keith if needed :innocent:), but it would be safer and much easier than being in the driveway under various jacks and jackstands. Plus, you can then work on the car even when it's raining... not easy or wanted when you have to work outside.












Plus, you're rich... so money's no object. :spend: :moneyman: :spend:

[68fastback]

Neat tool. Could be beneficial. Yet you'd have to install threaded inserts in the floor to screw to. I'd rather not.


I thought that was a cool feature. That way most of the time it is out of site. I'd probably only need it a few times a year.


Have to make sure the floor is strong enough to hold it first... I wouldn't stand under that one though, maybe a bendpak or rotary...

Bill, I think what Keith and Stacy are saying is that you'd have to install inserts in the floor (vs J-bolts in the poured concrete) and since the full leverage of the weight of the vehicle is trying to rip those outboard bolts out of the concrete, it might not be very safe. I sure would not go under a car on that lift with threaded inserts in an existing garage slab :nonono: ....J-bolts in 5-6" of reinforced concrete, yes ....threaded or epoxied inserts in an existing concrete garage floor :nonono: ...jmo.

[Birdman]

Bill, I think what Keith and Stacy are saying is that you'd have to install inserts in the floor (vs J-bolts in the poured concrete) and since the full leverage of the weight of the vehicle is trying to rip those outboard bolts out of the concrete, it might not be very safe. I sure would not go under a car on that lift with threaded inserts in an existing garage slab :nonono: ....J-bolts in 5-6" of reinforced concrete, yes ....threaded or epoxied inserts in an existing concrete garage floor :nonono: ...jmo.

Good point Dan. I would ask the manufacturer what the loads are on the floor inserts and what their recommendations and requirements are for proper and safe installation.

[68fastback]

...exactly ...you have those arms that must be about 2' long. A 4000# car's leverage (2000#/side) acting on what looks like about 2' arms ...and those post bases being about 8" square (just roughly), that's a force of about 6000# pulling up on those outboard bolts ...pretty scary for an existing slab. Possibly if the bolt holes were wet-drilled (not hammer drilled) entirely through the slab and 'molly' type bolts that expand underneath the bottom of the slab were used ...something like that might be strong enough assumng the slab was done right and not overloaded with aggregate and no wire mats as garage slabs are often 'skimped' on.

[Tommy Gun]

Guys, read the bottom of this page, it is incredible the amount of weight these bolts can hold.

This is a test w/ only 3 bolts per side, and they use 5 bolts per side!


This lift is rated for 6000 lbs, but the bolts are capable of holding over 23,000 lbs.


http://maxjaxusa.com/specifications.html



More info and testing...


http://maxjaxusa.com/faqs/common-concerns.html






Some pics...


http://maxjaxusa.com/images.html


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[Birdman]

Guys, read the bottom of this page, it is incredible the amount of weight these bolts can hold.

This is a test w/ only 3 bolts per side, and they use 5 bolts per side!


This lift is rated for 6000 lbs, but the bolts are capable of holding over 23,000 lbs.


http://maxjaxusa.com/specifications.html



More info and testing...


http://maxjaxusa.com/faqs/common-concerns.html






Some pics...


http://maxjaxusa.com/images.html


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My question wasn't so much about the bolts but rather the concrete itself holding the anchors properly when the weight is applied. This info apears to answer that question. Most garage slabs usually have 3000-3500 lb cement.


Are the concrete anchors really safe?
Answer :

Yes, your safety is number one on our list of priorities! We've done the long math and tested the design and application very thoroughly. Here, we'll even peel back the curtain and let all you engineer types see our work.

fp = 0.7 x fc
e = M/P
f1 = fp x B x N1 / 2
A = f1+/-(f12 - (.667 x fp x B) x (PA1+M)).5 / (fpxB/3)
T = (fp x A x B / 2) - P
T per bolt = T / # bolts
Safety Factor = Ultimate Bolt Strength / T per Bolt




Test Parameters:
Fc 3000PSI (strength of concrete) 4" thickness
Test weight = 6,000 lbs. (Max rated load)


Floor Loading & Anchor Stress @ Max Rated Load:
(P) Forward anchor bolt tension load (each) = 977 lbs. (Two bolts)
(P) Forward anchor bolt compression load (each) = 3383 lbs. (Two bolts)
(T) Rear anchor bolt tension load (each) = 3238 lbs. (Three bolts)


Physical Anchor Testing:
Anchor/bolt rated strength (each) = 12,580 lbs.
Anchor/bolt actual destruction strength (each) = 22, 806 lbs. average

[CH53Driver]

My question wasn't so much about the bolts but rather the concrete itself holding the anchors properly when the weight is applied. This info apears to answer that question. Most garage slabs usually have 3000-3500 lb cement.



Exactly. I would double and triple check what grade of concrete is in the garage. My guess is that it would have to be replaced with the application in mind. I think 4 post lifts for the weekend garage mechanic are much safer. I don't know if any of the reputable manufacturers make a 4 post lift that can be used in a limited space situation.

[68fastback]

My question wasn't so much about the bolts but rather the concrete itself holding the anchors properly when the weight is applied. This info apears to answer that question. Most garage slabs usually have 3000-3500 lb cement.



...exactly! ...and 3000# concrete is what it takes to *crush* a fully-set 1" cube ...so, yeah, that's exactly my concern too.


Exactly. I would double and triple check what grade of concrete is in the garage. My guess is that it would have to be replaced with the application in mind. I think 4 post lifts for the weekend garage mechanic are much safer. I don't know if any of the reputable manufacturers make a 4 post lift that can be used in a limited space situation.

+1 ...probably the only truly safe way to do it.

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btw, all those specs mean absolutely nothing since they have little to do with the reality of what actually casues the potential risk and/or what you'd actually experience ...the *bolts* aren't the risk so it doesnt matter if they're 400% or 4,000,000% over-engineered, imho.

Also, concrete has almost no tensile strength. It's the rebar and/or wire-mats/mesh in it that convert tension into compression. A typical slab has the mesh mat below the mid-point -- to convert more of the slab load into compression (i.e. the upper half). However, for an upward force (like threaded anchors for these botls), you'd want the mesh in the uppoer half of the slab (and also in the lower half since it's still a garage) ...garage floors are not built that way unless the application demands it so, to be safe, the floor would have to be removed and re-poured (not as horrible as it sounds, just lots of jackhammer work ...where's Joe's jackhammer smiley? ;-)) to the correct specs: type of concrete, reinforcement and size of aggregate (if permitted), etc. It can be *extremely* dangerous to put concrete under tension because it easily fails if not engineered to convert tension to compression ...and that requires it be done with the specific application in mind.

...better safe than sorry (says the guy who just *once* didn't clamp down the grinder :doh2: ;-))

[CH53Driver]

...better safe than sorry (says the guy who just *once* didn't clamp down the grinder :doh2: ;-))

:pics:


:giggle:

[68fastback]

:spitcopy: ...it's doing great! :banana:

[Birdman]

...better safe than sorry (says the guy who just *once* didn't clamp down the grinder :doh2: ;-))



:pics:


:giggle:


:groan: Don't ask that Matt ...please..:faint:

[68fastback]

:giggle:

[Gr8snkbite]

Just have MC come over to do any under car work...


:sofa:


:boink:

[Gr8snkbite]

That's the perfect height for Keith. :grin:

:hey2:

[Gr8snkbite]

Bill, I think what Keith and Stacy are saying is that you'd have to install inserts in the floor (vs J-bolts in the poured concrete) and since the full leverage of the weight of the vehicle is trying to rip those outboard bolts out of the concrete, it might not be very safe. I sure would not go under a car on that lift with threaded inserts in an existing garage slab :nonono: ....J-bolts in 5-6" of reinforced concrete, yes ....threaded or epoxied inserts in an existing concrete garage floor :nonono: ...jmo.

correct....bolts arent the concern....anchors in the concrete is.....that guy in the vid most likely had them installed during a new pour, since the floor looked new...plus that car looked all of 2k pounds....:groan: i wouldnt risk it...but yes, a neat idea...

[ati]

I really don't think the lift would fall through a 4" thick 3000 psi concrete floor . It seems that the concern is the lift ripping the anchors out of the concrete floor and falling over. Maybe they could design the lift with some type of outriggers (kind of like a backhoe) to increase its stability.

[Tommy Gun]

I really don't think the lift would fall through a 4" thick 3000 psi concrete floor . It seems that the concern is the lift ripping the anchors out of the concrete floor and falling over. Maybe they could design the lift with some type of outriggers (kind of like a backhoe) to increase its stability.


First I will Try to check on the concrete strength . My house was build around 1995 and our city is pretty strict on codes. I'm sure my garage floor is 6" thick and I'm almost positive minimum concrete strengths are 3000 lbs.

Now to ATI's comment... If the concrete isn't at Full strength... But a person always loaded the car close to center weight, how would it Tip over?


I seriously appreciate all your comments and am taking All of them in consideration!

[onecrazydog]

You could cut out and fortify the concrete if need be, no need to replace the whole pad... You could modify the floor plate so it has more area too... That lift with jackstands would be safer than just using jackstands...

[ati]

First I will Try to check on the concrete strength . My house was build around 1995 and our city is pretty strict on codes. I'm sure my garage floor is 6" thick and I'm almost positive minimum concrete strengths are 3000 lbs.

Now to ATI's comment... If the concrete isn't at Full strength... But a person always loaded the car close to center weight, how would it Tip over?


I seriously appreciate all your comments and am taking All of them in consideration!

I'm only guessing but lets try this scenario. Lets say that the car was loaded close to center and then maybe you dropped the rear end. Now the weight of the car on the lift is not centered or balanced and could tip over. The only thing keeping the lift from falling over are the anchors anchoring the lift to the concrete. Thats why I suggested some type of outrigger for more stability.

[Tommy Gun]

I'm only guessing but lets try this scenario. Lets say that the car was loaded close to center and then maybe you dropped the rear end. Now the weight of the car on the lift is not centered or balanced and could tip over. The only thing keeping the lift from falling over are the anchors anchoring the lift to the concrete. Thats why I suggested some type of outrigger for more stability.

I am really interested in input here. Did you look at the specs on the bolts? I felt pretty confident on that saying I had the proper concrete.

What should I really check and confirm before actually doing this?

The site says that adding the anchors in fresh concrete is not as safe as putting them in hardened concrete?

I use to do concrete testing many years ago and looking at the specs I am pretty confident in what is going on here, but you all have me worried. Now some of you are just guessing, but ATI is in the business and should have a grip on what is going on here....

[ati]

I am really interested in input here. Did you look at the specs on the bolts? I felt pretty confident on that saying I had the proper concrete.

What should I really check and confirm before actually doing this?

The site says that adding the anchors in fresh concrete is not as safe as putting them in hardened concrete?

I use to do concrete testing many years ago and looking at the specs I am pretty confident in what is going on here, but you all have me worried. Now some of you are just guessing, but ATI is in the business and should have a grip on what is going on here....

TG, I'm only a residential home builder and in no way an authority on concrete or engineering. I'm sure the lift manufacture has thought out and researched all the problems or scenarios that everyone is talking about. Reading back there was talk about how strong the concrete anchors were if the lift was put under excessive stress. My primary concern is that the anchors were installed properly and that if the lift was put under excessive stress that the anchors in the concrete would hold and not pull out. The bolts specs look good to me but again I'm no engineer. I'm sure this lift would be safe if installed properly.

[Tommy Gun]

Thank you, I appreciate your input!

I am going to try and get some more Input before setting this in my mind.

All I've seem so far looks good....but anything can be advertised and not true. :nonono:

[Gr8snkbite]

Where's rob....he's concrete king....

[Gr8snkbite]

Do they give guidance on how the anchors are installed in the slab...

[Tommy Gun]

Do they give guidance on how the anchors are installed in the slab...

Yes, did you look at the links?

[Gr8snkbite]

Not all of them....didn't have time...

[Tommy Gun]

Not all of them....didn't have time...


You need to make time.

I'm your friend, you need to keep me safe.... :popcorn:

[Gr8snkbite]

You need to make time.

I'm your friend, you need to keep me safe.... :popcorn:

When I have more time in the new year....I'll always be there for you.....:grin:

[Birdman]

When I have more time in the new year....I'll always be there for you.....:grin:

:wtg: Keith ...Lord knows he needs looking after...:innocent:

[Tommy Gun]

:grin:

[Gr8snkbite]

:wtg: Keith ...Lord knows he needs looking after...:innocent:

True dat......:giggle:

[Joe G]

.......where's Joe's jackhammer smiley? ;-))

Will this work. :weg:


http://www.lowbird.com/data/images/2010/03/4gifs-jackhammering.gif

[Joe G]

:wtg: Keith ...Lord knows he needs looking after...:innocent:Don't we all! :webers:

[Gr8snkbite]

Will this work. :weg:


http://www.lowbird.com/data/images/2010/03/4gifs-jackhammering.gif

:weg:

[Tommy Gun]

That works on the iPad! :yay:

[Joe G]

That works on the iPad! :yay::webers:

[The Bone]

when drilling holes in concrete you have to be careful to get the hole just right.. I have put anchors in concrete many times. Once in a while they dont set right and spin in the hole because they didn't grab the concrete. You wont find this out until you put the bolt in and tighten it up and it just spins in the hole. Then you cant get the bolt out cause it just spins. I would rather use the bolt kind of anchor rather than drop in kind anchors. Also the bigger the anchor the harder it is to get it right.
Why not get the lift like Stacy has? You dont have to bolt it down and so you can move it around. You can even just park the car on it so it takes up a little more space but mostly out of the way.

[Carnut]

It seems like it would be easier just working on your back, at 48 inches you would always be in crouch. That's the hardest thing on your back.

[Joe G]

...at 48 inches you would always be in crouch unless you're Keith.

:goodone:

[Carnut]

:goodone:

:spitcopy:

[Tommy Gun]

when drilling holes in concrete you have to be careful to get the hole just right.. I have put anchors in concrete many times. Once in a while they dont set right and spin in the hole because they didn't grab the concrete. You wont find this out until you put the bolt in and tighten it up and it just spins in the hole. Then you cant get the bolt out cause it just spins. I would rather use the bolt kind of anchor rather than drop in kind anchors. Also the bigger the anchor the harder it is to get it right.
Why not get the lift like Stacy has? You dont have to bolt it down and so you can move it around. You can even just park the car on it so it takes up a little more space but mostly out of the way.


I only have 87" ceiling height to work with and minimum room around the car.


It seems like it would be easier just working on your back, at 48 inches you would always be in crouch. That's the hardest thing on your back.

90% of the work will be wheel/brake service and oil changes.

[68fastback]

:idea: I wonder why no one has developed synchroniced hydraulic floor jacks (no lever needed) ...synchronized hydraulic *post* jacks are used for raising buildings but it would seem easy to apply the same priciple to 4 floor jacks similarly connected with hydraulic lines -- pre-position each one on a jacking point and jack them up all together. Would be great for brake service and rotating tires and stuff like that. I did some searches and can't find anything for this purpose ...I sure could use something like that. Maybe I should patent it. :shades:

[Tommy Gun]

:idea: I wonder why no one has developed synchroniced hydraulic floor jacks (no lever needed) ...synchronized hydraulic *post* jacks are used for raising buildings but it would seem easy to apply the same priciple to 4 floor jacks similarly connected with hydraulic lines -- pre-position each one on a jacking point and jack them up all together. Would be great for brake service and rotating tires and stuff like that. I did some searches and can't find anything for this purpose ...I sure could use something like that. Maybe I should patent it. :shades:


Just attach this to your car... http://www.vestilmfg.com/products/ergosol/syncronized_lift_systems.htm :shades:



I thought our garage concrete was 6" min, on our prelim plans it shows 4" w/ 6" wwm. I'll have to see if our permit dept knows what the min requirements were at the time of construction.


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[Carnut]

Just attach this to your car... http://www.vestilmfg.com/products/ergosol/syncronized_lift_systems.htm :shades:



I thought our garage concrete was 6" min, on our prelim plans it shows 4" w/ 6" wwm. I'll have to see if our permit dept knows what the min requirements were at the time of construction.


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Most codes only require 4 inches. The wwf is optional, used to minimize cracking.

[68fastback]

...yup, 4" with 6x6 wire mesh is pretty standard around here too for pours on compacted earth ...TG, the mesh would be installed in the bottom 1/2 for load strength.

lol - that synchronized lift is probably for mounting on a Winnebago or something like that ...I'd like something hooked to 4 compact 'floor' jacks for a low-lift application :banana:

[Tommy Gun]

I use to work for structural engineering firms for 7-8 years.

I know what welded wire mesh is and where it is supposed to be placed. :shades:

Thanks for the info on the thickness. I'll assume I do have 4" concrete.

Our permits dept was closed today so I couldn't ask.

[Alloy Dave]

Would you consider this if you had limited space for a lift?

Why/why not?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSUAXQOoXuY


:waiting:Great for brakes, exhaust, etc...anything in the center of the car....but would want it to lift higher...seems it's made for Keith.

Downside to 2-posts is that you're always walking around a post with your air hose or extension cord...but not a big deal.

[Tommy Gun]

Great for brakes, exhaust, etc...anything in the center of the car....but would want it to lift higher...seems it's made for Keith.

Downside to 2-posts is that you're always walking around a post with your air hose or extension cord...but not a big deal.


I think it's perfect for my needs.

Just trying to gather how concerned I should be about mounting in a 4" slab.

Their site shows tons of people w/ it, but would like outside info...

[Carnut]

I think it's perfect for my needs.

Just trying to gather how concerned I should be about mounting in a 4" slab.

Their site shows tons of people w/ it, but would like outside info...

My 9,000 pound Rotary two post lift is on a 4 inch slab, no problems. And I don't have any wwf in it. As long as your anchors are properly installed you should be fine.

[Tommy Gun]

:tiphat2:

[onecrazydog]

Is it installed yet?

[Joe G]

Is it installed yet?:goodpost:


:waiting2:

[68fastback]

My 9,000 pound Rotary two post lift is on a 4 inch slab, no problems. And I don't have any wwf in it. As long as your anchors are properly installed you should be fine.

...seems scary to me -- in a slab with no wire mesh and no structural member on top or bottom of the posts. I could see it if the post had 'feet' that extend under the car a bit. Actually I'm surprised most are not made with a 1'x2' 5/8" plate steel base to reduce pull-out forces ...I guess steel is expensive but I would never rely on pre-existing concrete with anchors added after the fact :nonono: ...maybe that's just me

[edit:] ...this thread (http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=44191)might be of interest...

[Tommy Gun]

Is it installed yet?


No, I think my clutch is going and that would be my money for the lift. :nonono:

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[Joe G]

No, I think my clutch is going and that would be my money for the lift. :nonono:

.GT500?

I told you I thought it was messed up when I was there, but you said it felt the same since when it was first replaced under warranty years ago, right?

[Tommy Gun]

GT500?

I told you I thought it was messed up when I was there, but you said it felt the same since when it was first replaced under warranty years ago, right?


Yeah, but I drive it all the time so perhaps the slow progression of dying has grown on me. :nonono:

Seems to be getting worse.

My mechanic who aligned the car said it didn't feel to good either.

When it's warmed up I can really tell when going up the driveway.

[VaporDude]

I would rather have a 4 post lift. I know you can't do as much because things get in the way but if you added the air jack to it, it would work out.

[Tommy Gun]

I would rather have that also, but I don't have the ceiling height.

[VaporDude]

I would rather have that also, but I don't have the ceiling height.

What does that have to do with? Is the ceiling going to move up with a 2 post? The car will still be the same height off the floor no matter what method you use.

[Gr8snkbite]

:goodpost:

[Tommy Gun]

What does that have to do with? Is the ceiling going to move up with a 2 post? The car will still be the same height off the floor no matter what method you use.


You were speaking of a 4 post lift.

The shortest 4 post lift is about 112 inches high I have 87 inches to work with.

The 2 post lift in my post is only 84 inches high.

It is the only lift I have found that actually fits in my garage and I can still get at least 30 inches under the car. :grin:

[VaporDude]

You were speaking of a 4 post lift.

The shortest 4 post lift is about 112 inches high I have 87 inches to work with.

The 2 post lift in my post is only 84 inches high.

It is the only lift I have found that actually fits in my garage and I can still get at least 30 inches under the car. :grin:

:wow2:

I didn't realize your ceiling was that low. Here is one that is 83" high. http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-Garage-Pro-8-000

[Joe G]

:wow2:

I didn't realize your ceiling was that low. Here is one that is 83" high. http://www.gregsmithequipment.com/Atlas-Garage-Pro-8-000Nice find.... and it's cheaper for TG to!

[Tommy Gun]

That does look nice, but....it takes up much more floor space which I don't have and can't be moved. The length of that unit would interfere w/ my entry door where I would need to set it.

I'm telling ya I have very limited space to work with. :nonono:

And the fact that it lifts at the wheel makes it even more limited how I can use it.

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[VaporDude]

Well I tried........

[Tommy Gun]

:rofl3:

[hellfyr]

Since you have no room to go up... go DOWN instead. Make a monkey pit.

[Tommy Gun]

:spend:





:lol:

[Joe G]

Since you have no room to go up... go DOWN instead. Make a monkey pit.:monkey: lives in a pit? I thought he was building a mansion in TX?

[Joe G]

:spend:





:lol:Good thing you're rich.

[CH53Driver]

Time for a bigger garage. Just sayin'. :shades:

[Joe G]

Time for a bigger garage. Just sayin'. :shades::logical:



... but since you didn't read back TG said he doesn't want to move and can't expand his current garage

[CH53Driver]

Sounds like TG needs to stop whining then. :shades:


:look:

[Joe G]

:logical:

[VaporDude]

Sounds like TG needs to stop whining then. :shades:


:look:

That will be the day........:haha:

[Birdman]

Would you consider this if you had limited space for a lift?

Why/why not?



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QSUAXQOoXuY


:waiting:

Assuming that your concrete is strong enough and it is installed according to the manufacturer's recommendations, after listening to all considerations and given your restrictions I think this will be the best solution for you. For doing brake jobs etc especially if you use it along with 4 jack stands you should be fine.

I like the portability and versatility of this product especially where space is very limited like in your situation.

[Gr8snkbite]

You were speaking of a 4 post lift.

The shortest 4 post lift is about 112 inches high I have 87 inches to work with.

The 2 post lift in my post is only 84 inches high.

It is the only lift I have found that actually fits in my garage and I can still get at least 30 inches under the car. :grin:

incorrect wrt 112 inches...i've found others with shorter height, even Perry provided me info on the one he has....:tongueflap:

[onecrazydog]

http://www.automotivetools.com/Brown-Bear/Auto-Lift-Scissor-Style-6000-lb-capacity-Mid-Rise/MR6K-48/671/Image.ashx?i=Product&g=BB-MR6K-48.jpg

[Joe G]

Link?

[onecrazydog]

Link?

I will post it tomorrow...

[Joe G]

:waiting2:

[onecrazydog]

:flex:

[Joe G]

:beerchug:

[Gr8snkbite]

http://www.automotivetools.com/Brown-Bear/Auto-Lift-Scissor-Style-6000-lb-capacity-Mid-Rise/MR6K-48/671/Image.ashx?i=Product&g=BB-MR6K-48.jpg

Those are a joke....no way I'd use it....

[onecrazydog]

Those are a joke....no way I'd use it....

It is a bit high for you...

[Gr8snkbite]

:groan:

[onecrazydog]

:webers:

[HSURB]

It is a bit high for you...


:haha::haha:

[Tommy Gun]

That will be the day........:haha:



:spitcopy:





:hey2:


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[Tommy Gun]

Assuming that your concrete is strong enough and it is installed according to the manufacturer's recommendations, after listening to all considerations and given your restrictions I think this will be the best solution for you. For doing brake jobs etc especially if you use it along with 4 jack stands you should be fine.

I like the portability and versatility of this product especially where space is very limited like in your situation.


Very good point about bracing the car as well as using the lift, I didn't think about that.

[Tommy Gun]

incorrect wrt 112 inches...i've found others with shorter height, even Perry provided me info on the one he has....:tongueflap:


:oops: but no where near 87" total.

[Tommy Gun]

http://www.automotivetools.com/Brown-Bear/Auto-Lift-Scissor-Style-6000-lb-capacity-Mid-Rise/MR6K-48/671/Image.ashx?i=Product&g=BB-MR6K-48.jpg

I don't particularly like that, nor could I get to things under the middle of the car if need be.

[Tommy Gun]

How about this one? :popcorn:


Bendpak LR-60P


http://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/specialty-lifts/LR-60P.aspx



Video of similar....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E-e0gbT-RF8


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[Joe G]

26" lift... is that enough?

Too high for your short ceiling?

[Joe G]

I thought you also wanted something that could be put away when not needed. Where would you store this - or would you just park on it all the time?

[Tommy Gun]

26" lift... is that enough?

Too high for your short ceiling?

I have about 30 inches before the car hits the lights, so this is great.

Tire/brake work and oil changes is all I need.

[Tommy Gun]

I thought you also wanted something that could be put away when not needed. Where would you store this - or would you just park on it all the time?

I could easily park on top of it all the time.

It is portable though.

[onecrazydog]

That is cool...

[Birdman]

Looks safer than the last one you showed.

[Joe G]

Looks safer than the last one you showed.I was just gonna say that too. :webers:

[Tommy Gun]

You must be as smart as Birdman. :wow2:

[Joe G]

You must be as smart as Birdman. :wow2:Smarter. :look:

[Tommy Gun]

Smarter. :look:

So you're like Dan? :giggle:

[Joe G]

So you're like Dan? :giggle::no: Not that smart.

[68fastback]

:spitcopy: :wtg: :rofl3:

[Birdman]

Smarter. :look:

you is smart...:yes: :spitcopy:

[Sssnake08]

Looks pretty good, any idea on price yet?

[Joe G]

Looks pretty good, any idea on price yet?http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200323416_200323416


(http://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200323416_200323416)Not too bad.... :spend:

[Alloy Dave]

To me, if you're only raising to 26", may as well use jack stands. Seems like you're paying $1,800 to save 10 minutes each time you work on the car. Am I missing something?

[Gr8snkbite]

To me, if you're only raising to 26", may as well use jack stands. Seems like you're paying $1,800 to save 10 minutes each time you work on the car. Am I missing something?

:no:

[Tommy Gun]

Looks pretty good, any idea on price yet?

$200 cheaper than what Joe listed. :shades:

[Tommy Gun]

To me, if you're only raising to 26", may as well use jack stands. Seems like you're paying $1,800 to save 10 minutes each time you work on the car. Am I missing something?


Mostly a matter of saving my back. W/ both Mustangs I have to position wood under all 4 tires, drive up on them, then jack up each wheel at a time, jack stand etc etc.

This would be much easier for me for most of the things I "usually" tackle.

[onecrazydog]

That lift looks stable at 26" high, jackstands, not so much...

Why don't you raise your garage height if you can? Have you checked into the cost of that?

[Tommy Gun]

We have a room over the garage. :doh:

[Tommy Gun]

You can see it in this pic...


8787

[Joe G]

$200 cheaper than what Joe listed. :shades:I didn't really look around, just posted the first place I saw! :rant:

[Joe G]

We have a room over the garage. :doh:

I think it's called "The :postwhore: Palace", right? :chat:

[onecrazydog]

We have a room over the garage. :doh:

So it's attached to the house?

You could cut a big hole if there is a room up there... Plenty of lift space then...

[onecrazydog]

You can see it in this pic...


8787

Ohhh, why didn't you post that earlier? The cutting out the floor to the room is your solution...

[Tommy Gun]

I didn't really look around, just posted the first place I saw! :rant:



:fail:

[Tommy Gun]

Ohhh, why didn't you post that earlier? The cutting out the floor to the room is your solution...


Can you tell CoPilot for me? :popcorn:


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[Joe G]

Ohhh, why didn't you post that earlier? The cutting out the floor to the room is your solution...:goodpost:

[Joe G]

Can you tell CoPilot for me? :popcorn:


.I'll tell her tomorrow when your out at work. :look:

[Joe G]

:fail::hey2:

[Tommy Gun]

I'll tell her tomorrow when your out at work. :look:


She'll be w/ me tomorrow. :shades:

I'm going for a record month. :grin:

[Joe G]

She'll be w/ me tomorrow. :shades::banghead:

[Joe G]

I'm going for a record month. :grin::yay:


:moneyman:

[onecrazydog]

Can you tell CoPilot for me? :popcorn:


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I don't see how it would be a problem, she must like to see you happy... You would still have half a room, or a garage loft!!

[Tommy Gun]

Why would she like to see me happy? :look:

[onecrazydog]

Why would she like to see me happy? :look:

I thought people got married to make each other happy and complete, the go forth merrily and have kids thing...

[Tommy Gun]

I thought people got married to make each other happy and complete, the go forth merrily and have kids thing...


O yeah, thanks.

[Tommy Gun]

Okay, I think I want this one. :look:


Now to see about Mastersmech's forklift. :innocent:

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[68fastback]

That lift looks stable at 26" high, jackstands, not so much...

Why don't you raise your garage height if you can? Have you checked into the cost of that?


We have a room over the garage. :doh:

.:idea: ..rent it to a dwarf. :haha:

[edit:] oops ..techie thread :shades:

[Tommy Gun]

Dan's first lift..... :giggle:



http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb76/FastestShelby/longtime_slide-1-1.jpg

[Joe G]

:spitcopy:

[Joe G]

Okay, I think I want this one. :look:

.Can I borrow it? Have it shipped to me and I'll drop it off when I'm done with it. :tiphat:

[Tommy Gun]

Can I borrow it? Have it shipped to me and I'll drop it off when I'm done with it. :tiphat:


800 lbs, 1000 miles :surprised:



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[Joe G]

800 lbs, 1000 miles :surprised:

.I never said when I'd return it... or when I'd be done with it. :look:

[Gr8snkbite]

You can see it in this pic...


8787

gut the room...cut out the floor....plenty o space then...:grin: just make a loft area for kid to play his games....:giggle:

[68fastback]

Dan's first lift..... :giggle:



http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb76/FastestShelby/longtime_slide-1-1.jpg


:spitcopy:

:wtg: ...nice lift!!

<sigh> that was my first track turd -- Lizzy.

[Tommy Gun]

gut the room...cut out the floor....plenty o space then...:grin: just make a loft area for kid to play his games....:giggle:


:goodpost:


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[Tommy Gun]

:spitcopy:

:wtg: ...nice lift!!

<sigh> that was my first track turd -- Lizzy.



:rofl3:

[Sssnake08]

$200 cheaper than what Joe listed. :shades:

Not bad....

[RedNightmare]

9220 My dad's friend has one, Ceiling anit high enough in his garage or wide enough for a lift that can go higher, But it works great he likes it alot and just pulled his motor using it.

[Tommy Gun]

Thanks for the input, I think I'm gonna end up w this one once I make sure I can park the car over it. :grin:


http://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/specialty-lifts/LR-60P.aspx

[Tommy Gun]

Getting closer :look:

[Stew]

Which car will spend more time on the lift: Track Turd or GT500?

[Tommy Gun]

GT500 will be parked over it, but the track car will spend more time on it for maintenance.

[Joe G]

CoPilot will be parked over it, but Granny will spend more time on it for maintenance.:tmi:

[Joe G]

Getting closer :look::hurryup1:








:spend:

[Boston Mike]

Did you ever get one? Here's a gently used one locally.


http://www.aacbid.com/cgi-bin/mnlist.cgi?advauct39/2020

[Tommy Gun]

I don't even know what that is Monkey Boy.


I'm gonna order this one once I get back from VIR in one piece...

http://www.bendpak.com/car-lifts/specialty-lifts/LR-60P.aspx

[Tommy Gun]

Lift came in today on a truck.

I denied delivery. :nonono:

It was really bad.

Looked like it was hit by a truck, packaged very poorly.

Couldn't tell if it was bent and hardware box was torn open.

Also a metal packing strap had cut a huge chunk out of one of the lifting pads. :nonono:

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[Stew]

Lift came in today on a truck.

I denied delivery. :nonono:

It was really bad.

Looked like it was hit by a truck, packaged very poorly.

Couldn't tell if it was bent and hardware box was torn open.

Also a metal packing strap had cut a huge chunk out of one of the lifting pads. :nonono:

.

That really sucks!!! :nonono: That is why I drove to Delaware in my F-350 and picked it up myself. I would be the only one responsible for damaging it.

[68fastback]

That sucks, Bill ...will you reorder from same vendor?

[Boston Mike]

That really sucks!!! :nonono: That is why I drove to Delaware in my F-350 and picked it up myself. I would be the only one responsible for damaging it.


Jeez, can you imagine the complaining about the mileage in his Ecoboost if he had a 2 post lift in the back??


:sofa:

[Stew]

Jeez, can you imagine the complaining about the mileage in his Ecoboost if he had a 2 post lift in the back??


:sofa:


:nonono:

[Shlbylvr]

Jeez, can you imagine the complaining about the mileage in his Ecoboost if he had a 2 post lift in the back??


:sofa:
:spitcopy:

[Tommy Gun]

That really sucks!!! :nonono: That is why I drove to Delaware in my F-350 and picked it up myself. I would be the only one responsible for damaging it.

This is an assembled type lift, I couldn't get it in my truck...or out...it is about 800 lbs.


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[Tommy Gun]

That sucks, Bill ...will you reorder from same vendor?

The company I ordered from isn't the problem, it was dropped shipped directly from Bendpak. :nonono:

[Tommy Gun]

Jeez, can you imagine the complaining about the mileage in his Ecoboost if he had a 2 post lift in the back??


:sofa:


:goodpost:

[Joe G]

Jeez, can you imagine the complaining about the mileage in his Ecoboost if he had a 2 post lift in the back??


:sofa::haha:

Rep points coming!!

[Joe G]

Lift came in today on a truck.

I denied delivery. :nonono:

It was really bad.

Looked like it was hit by a truck, packaged very poorly.

Couldn't tell if it was bent and hardware box was torn open.

Also a metal packing strap had cut a huge chunk out of one of the lifting pads. :nonono:

.Are they going to re-ship another one, or do you have to get a credit and then order another one?

[Tommy Gun]

:nonono:

[68fastback]

The company I ordered from isn't the problem, it was dropped shipped directly from Bendpak. :nonono:

...shipper apparently emphasized the 'dropped' :doh2:

[Joe G]

:pics: of the damage?

[Tommy Gun]

:pics: of the damage?

I grabbered some on my phone.

Give me a bit to figure how to get them to computer...

[Tommy Gun]

"I am very sorry to hear this and you did right to refuse this shipment.
I have contacted immediately BendPak about this and I will get back to you asap,..."



:waiting2:

[Stew]

This is an assembled type lift, I couldn't get it in my truck...or out...it is about 800 lbs.


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Got it, mine was disassembled and palletized and weighed about 1800 lbs. Used the bucket on my tractor to get it out of the bed. Sorry, I'd offer to help, but I'm 1/2 way around the world right now. Need anything from Dubai? :grin:

[Joe G]

I grabbered some on my phone.

Give me a bit to figure how to get them to computer...:waiting2:

[Stew]

:waiting:

[Joe G]

:waiting::goodpost:

[Stew]

:waiting3:

[Tommy Gun]

Got it, mine was disassembled and palletized and weighed about 1800 lbs. Used the bucket on my tractor to get it out of the bed. Sorry, I'd offer to help, but I'm 1/2 way around the world right now. Need anything from Dubai? :grin:

Yes, I need to drive on their track!!


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[Stew]

Yes, I need to drive on their track!!


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Have not seen the track yet, I'll get our driver to take us over there when we return. They have a Ferrari World amusement park here as well, was thinking about going until I heard it was $100 to get in. :moneyman:

[Stew]

Did you post those pictures yet?????

:needpics:

[Tommy Gun]

Have not seen the track yet, I'll get our driver to take us over there when we return. They have a Ferrari World amusement park here as well, was thinking about going until I heard it was $100 to get in. :moneyman:

I'll send you a $100 if you get pics and videos. :look:

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[Joe G]

Did you post those pictures yet?????

:needpics::goodpost:

[Stew]

I'll send you a $100 if you get pics and videos. :look:

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I'll see what I can do. Are you talking about the track or Ferrari world?

[Stew]

:woohoo: 2500 posts, look out TG here I come. :rofl3:

[Tommy Gun]

I'll see what I can do. Are you talking about the track or Ferrari world?


Driving around the track. :yay:


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[Tommy Gun]

:woohoo: 2500 posts, look out TG here I come. :rofl3:


:surprised:

[Tommy Gun]

..

[Sssnake08]

:woohoo: 2500 posts, look out TG here I come. :rofl3:

:postwhore:

[Stew]

:postwhore:

:yes:

[Stew]

Looks like they ran it over with the truck they were loading it on to. Just sayin'

[Tommy Gun]

Looks like they ran it over with the truck they were loading it on to. Just sayin'


I said that in post number 164. :popcorn:


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[HSURB]

I don't read back. Did you end up buying a lift?

HSURB®

[onecrazydog]

I wouldn't have accepted that either...

[Tommy Gun]

I don't read back. Did you end up buying a lift?

HSURB®


Somewhat. :nonono:

[Joe G]

That looks bad.

Did you refuse shipment?

:popcorn:

[Tommy Gun]

Read back.

[Joe G]

Read back.Under guidance of my bestest friend, I don't do that. :tiphat:

[Tommy Gun]

New guidance, start.

[Joe G]

New guidance, start.I don't like change.

[Tommy Gun]

Me either, so clean up this tech thread. :sherriff:

[Joe G]

:mop:

[Tommy Gun]

:waiting2:

[Joe G]

:jk:


I'm not a Mod for this area.


:frolic:

[Tommy Gun]

:jk:


I'm not a Mod for this area.


:frolic:


You're a mod in all areas. :nonono:

.

[Joe G]

You're a mod in all areas. :nonono:

.Oh yeah! :idea:













I just don't wanna do it.



:tiptoe:

[Tommy Gun]

I'm not a mod anywhere :nonono:


http://stangsunited.com/showgroups.php


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[Joe G]

True. You're an Admin! :salute2:

[Tommy Gun]

:jk:


I'm not a Mod for this area.


:frolic:


Looks like your luck just changed. :shades:

.

[Gr8snkbite]

True. You're an Admin! :salute2:

not for long.....:weg:

[Tommy Gun]

:ohsnap:




:banghead:

[Joe G]

Looks like your luck just changed. :shades:

.:trouble:

[Tommy Gun]

:look:

[Stew]

I said that in post number 164. :popcorn:


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Sorry must have missed that, and yes I do read back. :grin:

[Tommy Gun]

:wow2:

[Tommy Gun]

..

[onecrazydog]

Awesome, looks great!! Nice work!!

[Tommy Gun]

Super easy to get to brakes now....and in the A/C. :wtg:

And plenty of room to do an oil change too. :grin:

[CH53Driver]

That looks like a sweet lift. Do you put jack stands under the car before getting under it? :shades:

[Tommy Gun]

That looks like a sweet lift. Do you put jack stands under the car before getting under it? :shades:

I will just in case.

[CH53Driver]

I will just in case.

Smart. If you were Keith you wouldn't have to worry about these things. :shades:


:look:

[Tommy Gun]

You do know Keith was 6ft 7in before right?

His lift fell on him back in the 90s. :ohsnap:

[Sssnake08]

You do know Keith was 6ft 7in before right?

His lift fell on him back in the 90s. :ohsnap:

And now he's what??? About 4'10

[Tommy Gun]

:wow2: CH53 and me didnt say that.










:giggle:

[CH53Driver]

:look:

[Tommy Gun]

It has a lot of nice features for someone who needs the space for other things and prefers the lift to be out of the way.


I don't like that it can only lift to 48" in height. That would be the deal breaker for me but if your garage didn't allow for anything higher it might be a great choice otherwise.



Thanks Birdman


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[Carnut]

Thanks Birdman


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Digging rather deep today aren't we?

[Sssnake08]

Digging rather deep today aren't we?

He's something else, isn't he?:doh2:

[Tommy Gun]

Digging rather deep today aren't we?

I only look at what other people are viewing, I never dig up old threads.

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[Gr8snkbite]

:bsflag:

[Tommy Gun]

:bsflag:


Ask Joe how I find these threads, I told him a couple years ago. :grin:

Really, PM him.

[Joe G]

Ask Joe how I find these threads, I told him a couple years ago. :grin:

Really, ban him.NO!!!


:rant:

[onecrazydog]

I don't think digging up old threads is the problem, it's the content you added to this one... Did you not get the memo that George left? I for one am still upset over it, as I have a ton of respect for him... Things were just calming down and you had to go there...

[Tommy Gun]

I don't think digging up old threads is the problem, it's the content you added to this one... Did you not get the memo that George left? I for one am still upset over it, as I have a ton of respect for him... Things were just calming down and you had to go there...


I have a great respect for him too.

I don't go digging for these threads.

No disrespect meant.