Lock out problem

[Tommy Gun]

Trying to figure out exactly how it happens, but the only thing I can figure if I click to fast through threads or double click one by mistake, the site throws me out.

I can't log back in for I think about 30 minutes?

Even tried clearly cookies and it still won't even recognize the page to load it?

Guess it happened about 10:30 tonight, and it has happened several times in the last couple weeks.

Since I can't see the logs anymore can we check if it shows anything?

Any ideas?

[Carnut]

:conspiracy:

[Dad's72Mach]

Maybe you have reached the counter limit on your post count..... kinda like a Y2K thing.



:pimp:

[Tommy Gun]

Maybe I should hit the return to default switch so the whole forum can start over?:idea:

[Alloy Dave]

Sorry I'm no help on this...have to let the techies weigh in

[Joe G]

Shoot a PM to Joker?

[HSURB]

Maybe I should hit the return to default switch so the whole forum can start over?:idea:


I'll just reset your post count to zero so you won't have the problem anymore.

HSURB®

[Joe G]

Shoot a PM to Joker?
:goodpost:

[Tommy Gun]

:goodpost:


Not sure PMs work when you're on ignore. :look:

[Tommy Gun]

I'll just reset your post count to zero so you won't have the problem anymore.

HSURB®



:ohsnap:

[Joe G]

Not sure PMs work when you're on ignore. :look:
Why do you have Joker on ignore?

[Tommy Gun]

I don't have anyone on ignore.

[Boston Mike]

I don't have anyone on ignore.

:hi:

[Tommy Gun]

:spitcopy:

[Tommy Gun]

Trying to figure out exactly how it happens, but the only thing I can figure if I click to fast through threads or double click one by mistake, the site throws me out.

I can't log back in for I think about 30 minutes?

Even tried clearly cookies and it still won't even recognize the page to load it?

Guess it happened about 10:30 tonight, and it has happened several times in the last couple weeks.

Since I can't see the logs anymore can we check if it shows anything?

Any ideas?


Still getting these lockouts. :banghead:


Can someone find out if this throws up some flag to our site host?

Why it does it? Still.

[Boston Mike]

Still getting these lockouts. :banghead:


Can someone find out if this throws up some flag to our site host?

Why it does it? Still.

slow down

[Tommy Gun]

Don't have a problem from the iPad thingy, but when on the PC for more than 30 mins... (Go ahead and say it Tim)

Not sure why the difference?

[68fastback]

Don't have a problem from the iPad thingy, but when on the PC for more than 30 mins... (Go ahead and say it Tim)

Not sure why the difference?

Could it be your ISP's problems rearing their head again?

Is access 'freezing' or is your browser 'freezing' or are you actually getting bounced-off the site? I occasionally get frozen if I iopen more than 12 or so windows into SU at the same time -lol- (soemtiems I'll open all unread posts and then just pick them off), but that's likely my old browser and an 8 year old laptop with limited memory :rofl3:

[Tommy Gun]

I get knocked off the site, then a message comes up that says "time out" etc etc...

[Carnut]

I get knocked off the site, then a message comes up that says "time out" etc etc...

Perhaps that is a time out like they get in pre school. Just sayin"

[Tommy Gun]

Probably

Just wonder why it only happens on this site when I have the same act on other sites. :rofl3:

[Joe G]

Probably

Just wonder why it only happens on this site when I have the same act on other sites. :rofl3:

:postwhore:

[68fastback]

I get knocked off the site, then a message comes up that says "time out" etc etc...

Almost sounds like a browser issue induced by a 'click' on something in a critical interval while the browser is still refreshing the screen.
Do you also see a pop-up/mesage that says [to the effect] "Stangs United is not responding" just before the "time out" ...the time out (which different browsers call different things) is the browser not seeing the target respond after a preset interval, but it is often a problem induced by the browser -- i.e. the target can be fine but browser can lose it's syncronization and think the target is not reponding because the browser actally didn't see the acknowledgement, so it hangs and then times out (browser determines that interval) before positng a not rsponding /or/ time out /or/ "404" or other message to notify it terminated trying to contact the target. I get those occasionally on my old IE9 if I click before all pieces of the page load and it just happens to fall in the critical interval of the browser looking for a response. With IE9 I'll get a stangs united not responding and if I click "reload page" all is good with no session loss whereas if I close the notification, I'll lose that session and the page (kicked-off?). DUnno ..there are so many browsers and extensions now and they all have their own default timers and messages ...does any of the ablve sound similar? What OS + level, browser + level, browser extensions, etc are you running? Are any 'gaming' extensions to the browser installed? Any s/w to cloak identity like Tor, or any Bit Torrent use? Having more than one firewall active can also cause lock-outs (I use Norton's firewall and also have Win-Defender installed but disabled). There's so many possibilities but do any of these seem to match-up?

[68fastback]

Probably

Just wonder why it only happens on this site when I have the same act on other sites. :rofl3:

That's interesting ...

[Boston Mike]

That's interesting ...

Blackberry??


:tiptoe:

[Tommy Gun]

This is still happening. :(

[Tommy Gun]

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/fastestshelby2/2015%20iPhone%20Pics/th_IMG_71621_zpscbjcxvg5.jpg (http://s670.photobucket.com/user/fastestshelby2/media/2015%20iPhone%20Pics/IMG_71621_zpscbjcxvg5.jpg.html)

[Carnut]

It's Joe's fault.

[Tommy Gun]

Was just locked out for another 30 mins. :banghead:


Just don't understand why this only happens on this site and on the PC, not the iPad.

[68fastback]

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/fastestshelby2/2015%20iPhone%20Pics/th_IMG_71621_zpscbjcxvg5.jpg (http://s670.photobucket.com/user/fastestshelby2/media/2015%20iPhone%20Pics/IMG_71621_zpscbjcxvg5.jpg.html)

Ok, that's just the can'd message Firefox puts up when it times-out (it's the same as a an IE 404) waiting on a remote feed. It doesn't necesarily mean the server is actually not working. It just means Firefox thinks it's not working for any number of reasons -- some of which could be your PC (or whatever device it's running on) running a script that's sucking up 100% of the CPU or a program doing so many disk reads/writes (some anti-virus programs are pigs) that Firefox doesn't see the server respond in more than Firefox's timeout interval, or your router could be resyncing and not reacquiring the connection with the PC and/or modem quickly enough, etc. That message is put up when the Browser has no clue why it's taking longer than it likes, so when it times-out it just 'blames' the last thing it invoked (seriously) -- even tho it has no idea if that's the problem.

It could also be the SU server stopping for some reason, but EVERYONE would also see that, so my hunch is that it's almost certainly a 'local' problem.

That said, have you had any 'virus' issues just before this problem started? Even adware can tie up your system by gathering and uploading information about where you've been and every page you've looked at -- such predatory programs don't care if they freeze your system for a minute. They won't do 'damage' because they want to keep you under surveillance so don't want to seriously hurt your system (tho they could).

Unfortunately it could be ANY of the above tho my bet would be on adware or other scripting program monitoring your activites as the most likely culprit -- there's dozens of them out there and antivirus may not flag them (Norton likely will) if you clicked on a 'mole' side-ad on a facebook page that was really a redirected download in disguise ...even ones served up by companies like Google and Yahoo can be predatory since they just sell the 'box' ad-space and often don't discover that the person they sold the space to is using it to spy on you ...and they often don't even care because Google, Yahoo, etc ad-server customers are the primary source of their income (and also the primary source of user adware/malware distribution).

A good rule of thumb: no matter how interesting an ad seems, don't click on it. Do a search on the subject and click on the source site but not on any results (even in the search results) that say "ad" underneath the link -- they can be just as 'dirty' as the side ads on facebook/websites. Doesn't matter whose site it is either -- if they permit side ads fromfrom google/yahoo/etc they potentially contain imbeded malware-adware that will download when you view the ad via a redirrect.

Try this: next time things seem to be ung-up, quickly right-click the Task Bar, launch Task Manager, open the Performance tab, and select Resource Monitor (near the bottom). Click the first, second and fourth widows (CPU, Disk and Memory). Is CPU very high (it shouldn't be). Prioritize Disk by disk writes, then by reads -- is anything thrashing the disk? Under Memory, how hard-faults/sec are there? If the system is stable you should see all zeros or very low numbers (unless you just rebooted). It's never easy finding the culprit because it will act like a regular program and use normal system services, etc to work its evil. You can can trace what processes are associated with a program (different tab) but even then it can be tough. Sorry I can't be more helpfull -- there's just soooo many possibilities.

Always better to avoid 'stuff' in the first place as best as you can.

[68fastback]

Was just locked out for another 30 mins. :banghead:


Just don't understand why this only happens on this site and on the PC, not the iPad.

See my other post above.

When ypu got locked out for 30 minutes, it didn't take that long to get the message you posted above, right? You got that after maybe 30-60 seconds, correct? But then you couldn't get back in for 30 minutes?

It could be a combination of problems: adware/scripting and Firefox cueing up many access attempts, which may then unleash when the connection re-opens and thereby cause the server to lock you out from what appears (to the server) like a DoSA (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denial-of-service_attack) (denial of service attack).

Firefox is known to not be well-behaved sometiems when things don't work the way it'd like them to work (lol- this is why it's so much smaller than IE which helps it be fast but not necessarily well-behaved) -- even if the root-cause is local (on your PC -- see above post) since Browser software has no way to know the true cause.

I was on contunuously while you were locked-out and SU was running just fine.

[Tommy Gun]

So...if it happens again on Firefox....and I jump on IE....if a Firefox problem then I should be able to get on IE...if an Adware problem I shouldn't be able to...or just a crap shoot? lol

[Gr8snkbite]

Get a Mac and use Safari.....:sofa:

Sory you've had issues, but the site is running fine. Or else others would be having the same issue. We live close by and have not had issues loging in..or staying on.

[Gr8snkbite]

Just as a back up, I submitted a ticket to KH..Here is what they said…

He's getting blocked due to too many connections to your server:
found to have 28 connections - *Blocked in csf* for 1800 secs [CT_LIMIT]
Incoming IP temporary block removed
Outgoing IP temporary block removed

found to have 34 connections - *Blocked in csf* for 1800 secs [CT_LIMIT]
Incoming IP temporary block removed
Outgoing IP temporary block removed

You have the connection limit set unusually low (25). The default is 50:

So i told KH to up it to the default. If it continues, let us know. We can always up the limit further.

[Tommy Gun]

What does it mean by a connection limit?

What connections?

[68fastback]

Your browser can establish many 'connections' into the server (if it so chooses). Firefox is known to try and retry over and over if response is delayed ...that's all I can think of.

[68fastback]

So...if it happens again on Firefox....and I jump on IE....if a Firefox problem then I should be able to get on IE...if an Adware problem I shouldn't be able to...or just a crap shoot? lol

Possibly not because the server may have already locked your IP address ...different browser at same IP address will probably also not work ...until the problem clears. Once cleared I'd bet IE is less likely to 'have' the same problem but, like I said, it could be a combo of problems.

[68fastback]

Just as a back up, I submitted a ticket to KH..Here is what they said…

He's getting blocked due to too many connections to your server:
found to have 28 connections - *Blocked in csf* for 1800 secs [CT_LIMIT]
Incoming IP temporary block removed
Outgoing IP temporary block removed

found to have 34 connections - *Blocked in csf* for 1800 secs [CT_LIMIT]
Incoming IP temporary block removed
Outgoing IP temporary block removed

You have the connection limit set unusually low (25). The default is 50:

So i told KH to up it to the default. If it continues, let us know. We can always up the limit further.

:wtg:

[Carnut]

Maybe it is all of his simultaneous aliases.

[onecrazydog]

Was just locked out for another 30 mins. :banghead:



I don't see a problem there...

[Joe G]

I don't see a problem there...
:spitcopy:

[Tommy Gun]

I don't see a problem there...


:nonono: