2015 Mustang Gets Innovative Software and Industry-first Knee Airbag

[68fastback]

DEARBORN, Mich., April 21, 2014 - Ford engineers are leveraging state-of-the-art controls software technology to give some of the most avid Mustang customers an industry-first feature – electronic line-lock...

More... (http://corporate.ford.com/news-center/press-releases-detail/pr-20140428-mustang-line-lock)

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DEARBORN, Mich., June 19, 2014 - A new airbag design debuting on the 2015 Ford Mustang raises the bar for passenger safety by providing inflatable restraint protection in a smaller, lighter package that also enables a roomier interior for more comfort.

More... (http://corporate.ford.com/news-center/press-releases-detail/pr-20140619-ford-introduces-innovative-airbag-design)

[Joe G]

Shouldn't this be posted in the 2015 Mustang section? :trouble:

[68fastback]

...ok :giggle:

[Joe G]

:webers:

[68fastback]

...are we there yet? :hiding: ;-)

[Joe G]

:bigboss:

[68fastback]

:tiphat2:

[The Bone]

Why would racing your vehicle void the warranty? So what they are saying is the new Mustang can't take the punishment? LOL
If you modified the tune and deleted the rev limiter and blew up the motor than sure but taking the stock car down the track shouldn't hurt noting. I see no point in putting Track Apps in a car only to use that against you for warranty work. Stupid Ford

[68fastback]

Is that different than in the past?
For some reason I thought it's been that way for a long time -- at least officially -- dunno.
Not clear how they would know tho -lol
Art, do you recall where you read that?

Maybe it's like the clause in rental contracts that car cannot be operated off paved roads...
...which sort of eliminates a whole lot of perfectly good (and fun!!) dirt roads.

[The Bone]

Its in your first post. The first linky
The black box is not our friend since Ford can access it when ever they want.

[Tommy Gun]

Black box?

Where is this mysterious black box.

:popcorn:

[Tommy Gun]

And why can't it be called a white box? :trouble:

[Carnut]

Racing has always excluded warranty repairs and its been that way for decades. All of the manufacturer's that I am aware of do the same. It is called risk mitigation for those guys that throw a set of slicks on the car, and go out drag race it on the strip, and keep breaking axles or whatever. Manufacturer's don't think they should have to be replacing broken parts for the next 100,000 miles and frankly I agree. You entire warranty is not voided usually, just those repairs made necessary by abuse (racing).

Ford's history has been to make normal warranty repairs even if you might have made a few trips to the track for fun or drive your car spiritedly.

Many years ago, my brother bought a new F-150 with a manual transmission. He beat the crap of it and broke several sets of motor mounts and a transmission. Ford fixed it but said to lay off dumping the clutch at the stoplights, the next repair of that type won't be covered. I am surprised they covered as much as they did.

[68fastback]

Its in your first post. The first linky
The black box is not our friend since Ford can access it when ever they want.

Interesting! So we get factory line-lock, but if you use it you void your warranty :doh2: ...otherwise, not problem :rofl3:

[The Bone]

Black box?

Where is this mysterious black box.

:popcorn:

Its somewhere inside the car. I believe even if you find it the car wont run if you disconnect it. Its probably not really black, like the ones in airplanes. it could be accessed from the obtII port.

[Tommy Gun]

Its somewhere inside the car. I believe even if you find it the car wont run if you disconnect it. Its probably not really black, like the ones in airplanes. it could be accessed from the obtII port.



So it's still a mystery. :nonono:

[68fastback]

It's probably just a tiny chip in the ECU where they log recent history for all sensors and actions.

In the past you had to be able to "deep scan" to get that info -- dealer could not do it, but court subpoena would cause rep to pull the info.

Sounds like now the info will be more 'accessible' ...or maybe they literally just meant if you use traction-lok ...certainly easy enough to set a bit to record that which can then be scanned to determine.

Have no idea how it was implemented -- they could do it many ways and for many -- even ALL -- functions if they choose to. I'll have to keep an eye out (lol) for any info.

[68fastback]

Found this at Edmunds -- apparently nothing new for many manufacturers?

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Misuse of the vehicle: This term can be interpreted in broad ways, and often includes racing/competition of any type, overloading the vehicle or off-roading. Potentially, anything outside of normal operation of the vehicle can be considered misuse. Some automakers will void your entire warranty for these infractions, and this decision is typically left to the discretion of the warranty administrator. Even if there is no proof but just signs of abuse, your warranty claim may be denied.

If you scour Internet message boards (http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/WebX?searchResults@@.ef14c39), there are plenty of articles noting how dealers and automakers monitor racing events (and even attend events to record license plate numbers) in order to deny warranty service the next time those cars come in for service. Though these may sound like conspiracy theories, you may want to think twice before competing in your car.

Even when you have a vehicle designed to go off-road, there is still a large gray area when it comes to warranty repairs. We found this out firsthand when we took one of our long-term test cars to Death Valley, California. One of our editors was driving a 2015 Honda Ridgeline when he came across a washboard dirt road, and followed it for a number of miles at speeds of 10-15 mph. On the way home, he noticed the ride was unusually bouncy, and took the truck in for service. The inspection by the dealer revealed that all four struts were blown out and needed to be replaced, a service not covered under warranty on the grounds that the struts were excessively worn.

Full article... (http://www.edmunds.com/auto-warranty/what-voids-your-vehicles-warranty.html)

[The Bone]

This is the very reason that puzzles me. So they put a line lok in the car. Then they say if you use it than we will void the warranty. Why put it in the car in the first place? Would come in handy for the street though.
I wonder what they say about the Raptor which was designed to go off road. Which is not the same as flying through the air and bend the frame. Those guys were stupid.

[68fastback]

It's not just Ford ...EVERY GM vehicle (was hard to get specifics on Dodge) voids warranty if raced. The Camaro ZL1 is the sole partial exception I could find which permits use at track-days but NOT in actual races or involving direct competition. I did quite a bit of reading last night (all manufactureres websites and msny related forum sites) and seems it's clearly used as a way to protect the manufacturer against abusive claims ...but it still loads the deck on the side of the manufacturer for sure. Most folks experience (across brands) is that most delaers will work with you as long as there is a plausable way for them to present it to obtain manufacturer wrranty payment but, as you might expect, that varied widely with the individual dealer from no problem even for blown engines to "forget it -- we don't want that work." That said, I found two instances of ZL1 blown engines (which is odd in and of itself) and GM would NOT authorize dealer for warranty for either (could not tell if direct competition was involved but I suspect so). So, will be interesting to see if Ford cuts the GT350 Voodoo some special slack when it comes out ...or not -lol

[The Bone]

It just didn't make sense to me that Ford would put a racing device in a car. I get the idea that if you intentionally race your car and it brakes they don't want to fix it. But why dangle the carrot out there. Who in there right mind isn't going to use this. I'm old and would use this.

[Joe G]

I'm old and would use this.
:poidh:








You ever even drive your current GT500??











:haha:

[68fastback]

And it has the Christmas Tree too ...like the '13/'14 GT500 ...and probably the g-force readout too ...everyone uses that -- yeah, sort of like dangling bait :lol:

[The Bone]

:poidh:








You ever even drive your current GT500??











:haha:

I have 15,000 miles on mine thank you :tiphat:

[Joe G]

I have 15,000 miles on mine thank you :tiphat:

:wow2:

:faint: