Air Compressors...

[onecrazydog]

Going to start looking for a new one to go in my garage... Vertical tank for sure, 60 - 80 gallon... 5 - 7.5 hp... 20 to 25 cfm at 150 - 175 psi... Not sure about single or two stage yet... Around 30 amp draw max...

[Alloy Dave]

Going to start looking for a new one to go in my garage... Vertical tank for sure, 60 - 80 gallon... 5 - 7.5 hp... 20 to 25 cfm at 150 - 175 psi... Not sure about single or two stage yet... Around 30 amp draw max...Why do you need such high pressures? Mine only goes to 110 PSI and is plenty for me. I have a 5 HP 60 gal. My only complaint is that it's very noisy. I've had it 17 years. Be careful what oil you use in them...most of them take HD oils, not automotive type oils.

[onecrazydog]

Why do you need such high pressures?

Sanders and air grinders I have, plus I want to be able to do sand blasting and painting with it... Mostly sand blasting...

[Carnut]

Sanders and air grinders I have, plus I want to be able to do sand blasting and painting with it... Mostly sand blasting...

I would go for the 2 stage. When I was doing a lot of body work, the 2 stage capacity kept me running out of air. My old single stage could not.

[onecrazydog]

I would go for the 2 stage. When I was doing a lot of body work, the 2 stage capacity kept me running out of air. My old single stage could not.

2 stage sounds good, body work and blasting are what I mostly want it for... They need tons of air... My retirement shop will have a paint booth, sandblast cabinet, powder coat oven, ect...

As it is my 5hp 20 gallon one can't even come close to keeping up with my sanders or die grinders... Plus I took it to the shop when I painted the bottom of my car, so I have nada at home right now...

[The Bone]

The bigger the better. I have a 5 horse 20 gallon tank and when I use it it runs all the time. I have to stop sometimes so it will catch up. The bigger the air tank the better. Single stage is the way to go. Sandblasting needs lots of air. Painting doesn't use much at all.

[Carnut]

Mine is an 80 gallon vertical tank, 15.8 cfm at 90 psi, 175 psi maximum. You're not going to run it out of air.

[Tommy Gun]

Mines a Devilbiss 6HP 60 gallon oil less compressor, been going strong for I think 20-22 years now. :wtg:

I don't even think Devilbiss has made small compressors in over 10 years now, just giant industrial sizes.

I never run out of air, and it is crazy noisy. Lol

Originally bought it to sandblast our 1977 Bronco. :)

.

[Joe G]

My retirement shop will have a paint booth, sandblast cabinet, powder coat oven, ect...


You're retiring?

[onecrazydog]

You're retiring?

Not yet, planning ahead!!

[Joe G]

Not yet, planning ahead!!

Sweet!

[Alloy Dave]

Sanders and air grinders I have, plus I want to be able to do sand blasting and painting with it... Mostly sand blasting...

Ok, good reason..sandblasting uses more hot air than we have in Washington DC.

[onecrazydog]

Ordered a compressor!!

Was looking at getting this tri max, 80 gal, 7.5 hp, 25 cfm at 175 psi, 2 stage, single phase 30 amp, three grand plus shipping...

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I showed it to the snap on guy and asked what he could do on one... They have an 80 gal, 7 hp, 23.5 cfm at 175 psi, 2 stage, single phase, 40 amp, 72 db at 6', fastest color, and made in Canada... Thirty six hundred though...

He said he would drop it down to three grand all in, and deliver it to my garage for free... Deal done!!

Going to take a few weeks to get here, no biggie...


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[HSURB]

Ordered a compressor!!

Was looking at getting this tri max, 80 gal, 7.5 hp, 25 cfm at 175 psi, 2 stage, single phase 30 amp, three grand plus shipping...

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I showed it to the snap on guy and asked what he could do on one... They have an 80 gal, 7 hp, 23.5 cfm at 175 psi, 2 stage, single phase, 40 amp, 72 db at 6', fastest color, and made in Canada... Thirty six hundred though...

He said he would drop it down to three grand all in, and deliver it to my garage for free... Deal done!!

Going to take a few weeks to get here, no biggie...


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Wow, that will be nice.

HSURB®

[Carnut]

Nice.

[68fastback]

Sweet! Looks like a kick-azz compressor. Wonder who makes it for them?

[Carnut]

A bunch of Canadian dudes.

[68fastback]

:canada: :banana:

[Joe G]

:wow2:

I was feeling guilty for looking at a compressor that was a few hundred. :doh:

[68fastback]

:wow2:

I was feeling guilty for looking at a compressor that was a few hundred. :doh:

lol - me too! :webers:

...but I'd like that one in another life :biggrin:

[onecrazydog]

Sweet! Looks like a kick-azz compressor. Wonder who makes it for them?

Not sure, I will ask him... I know the Motors are made by Baldor...

[Tommy Gun]

Sweet! Looks like a kick-azz compressor. Wonder who makes it for them?


Chinese Canadians :look:

[Tommy Gun]

That's pretty loud, I know you probably won't be there long, but placement will be key.

[Carnut]

You should build an outside compressor room with sound attenuation.

To much of that will be harmful to your hearing.

[The Bone]

I was told that single stage compresses are better than 2 stage.
That is nice though. Strap on guy giving you a deal :rofl:

[68fastback]

I was told that single stage compresses are better than 2 stage.
That is nice though. Strap on guy giving you a deal :rofl:


:surprised:

:hilarious:

[68fastback]

That's pretty loud, I know you probably won't be there long, but placement will be key.

Actually that's very quiet for a compressor. My single-stage non-iol-lubricated is 85 db.

Decibels are on a logarithmic scale arbitrarily calibrated such that every 3 db equal to 1/2 (or 2x, depending on less or more) the sound energy. 72 db is equivalent to an older (noisier) window air conditioner when it's cycling :yes:

So this Snap-on compressor emits somewhere around 1/40th the sound ENERGY (1 / (2 to the 4.3333 power)) as mine does but would SOUND about 4.3x quieter -- mine is noisy (but not offensively so).

This generic work-safe reference chart (http://www.worksafebc.com/news_room/news_releases/assets/nr_08_02_08/How_Loud_home.pdf)might be useful in considering equivalents tho most items have broad sound ranges.

[Joe G]

Whaaaaat???

[Tommy Gun]

Y
Actually that's very quiet for a compressor. My single-stage non-iol-lubricated is 85 db.

Decibels are on a logarithmic scale arbitrarily calibrated such that every 3 db equal to 1/2 (or 2x, depending on less or more) the sound energy. 72 db is equivalent to an older (noisier) window air conditioner when it's cycling :yes:

So this Snap-on compressor emits somewhere around 1/40th the sound ENERGY (1 / (2 to the 4.3333 power)) as mine does but would SOUND about 4.3x quieter -- mine is noisy (but not offensively so).

This generic work-safe reference chart (http://www.worksafebc.com/news_room/news_releases/assets/nr_08_02_08/How_Loud_home.pdf)might be useful in considering equivalents tho most items have broad sound ranges.


My compressor is quieter and I still have it surrounded with sound deadening.

[Carnut]

Whaaaaat???

Exactly.

[68fastback]

Y


My compressor is quieter and I still have it surrounded with sound deadening.

agree ...always a good idea anyway.

[Joe G]

When I begin finishing the barn I'll enclose a small room for the compressor and put a bunch of insulation around it too. :wtg:

[Carnut]

When I begin finishing the barn I'll enclose a small room for the compressor and put a bunch of insulation around it too. :wtg:

You will be much happier working out there.

[onecrazydog]

I was told that single stage compresses are better than 2 stage.

They lied...



That is nice though. Strap on guy giving you a deal :rofl:


He does!! All of his prices are the same as the website, but he gives discounts and bogo deals!! He is a cool guy, has an old truck he is fixing up so we bs about cars and trucks... I think he has been really fair to me!!

I have no problem with him making a few bucks off me!!

[HSURB]

They lied...





He does!! All of his prices are the same as the website, but he gives discounts and bogo deals!! He is a cool guy, has an old truck he is fixing up so we bs about cars and trucks... I think he has been really fair to me!!

I have no problem with him making a few bucks off me!!

The Snap On products are first class. We had a Service Shop next to our office several years ago. I would go over there whenever I saw his truck stopped.

HSURB®

[Tommy Gun]

When I begin finishing the barn I'll enclose a small room for the compressor and put a bunch of insulation around it too. :wtg:


What do you need a compressor for?

[Joe G]

What do you need a compressor for?

:pumpsharun:

[Tommy Gun]

Oh yeah.

[Carnut]

:wow2:

[Boston Mike]

What do you need a compressor for?

Sharun duh

[onecrazydog]

Next up is a air cooler/dryer... Couple I am looking at,

Chicago Pneumatic CPXHT25

14744

http://www.cp.com/usen/whatwedo/us-stationarycompressors/equipment/dryers/cpxht.aspx

and the,

Ingersoll Rand D42IT
14745

http://www.ingersollrandcompressedair.com/D42IT-High-Temperature-Air-Dryer_p_69.html

[68fastback]

IR makes great products ...dunno about CP

[onecrazydog]

IR makes great products ...dunno about CP

I have a cp air grinder that I really like... I know IR is good stuff... CP is winning on colors!!

[onecrazydog]

Got a call from Snap On Clint, Compressor was shipped!! Cool, we figured Nov...

[Tommy Gun]

B
Next up is a air cooler/dryer... Couple I am looking at,

Chicago Pneumatic CPXHT25

14744

http://www.cp.com/usen/whatwedo/us-stationarycompressors/equipment/dryers/cpxht.aspx

and the,

Ingersoll Rand D42IT
14745

http://www.ingersollrandcompressedair.com/D42IT-High-Temperature-Air-Dryer_p_69.html


What are these for?

[onecrazydog]

They cool and dry the air coming out of the compressor...

[68fastback]

Drying the compressor's air.

[edit:] beat me to it ;-)

[68fastback]

I have a cp air grinder that I really like... I know IR is good stuff... CP is winning on colors!!

:biggrin: ...just needs ghost stripes :rofl3:

[Tommy Gun]

They cool and dry the air coming out of the compressor...


Why does that matter at the small scale you will use it?

[onecrazydog]

Why does that matter at the small scale you will use it?


Who said it was going to be small scale use?

[Tommy Gun]

You using it in a bodyshop w 10 plus guys? :look:

[onecrazydog]

You using it in a bodyshop w 10 plus guys? :look:

Could be...

[onecrazydog]

I am setting up a whole new air system so I figured might as well do it right the first time... I want to buy a sandblast cabinet and get into powder coating, so the cooler and dryer the air is the better...

It's not about volume, it's about consistency and quality...

[Joe G]

I am setting up a whole new air system so I figured might as well do it right the first time... I want to buy a sandblast cabinet and get into powder coating, so the cooler and dryer the air is the better...

It's not about volume, it's about consistency and quality...

You da man!

[68fastback]

:wtg: yeah, moisture and paint don't mix ... the drier the better.

[Tommy Gun]

I've used inline driers while painting 2 vehicles at home. $40 :look:

[Tommy Gun]

...and a Doodlebug. :hiding:

[onecrazydog]

...and a Doodlebug. :hiding:



We saw how splotchy that thing turned out...

[Carnut]

:hilarious:

[68fastback]

:giggle:


...but it did have that je ne sais quoi (http://cdn.slike.hr/wp-content/uploads/sites/10/2011/06/ludi_auti(1).jpg) :lol: ... oh, the doodlebug! ... right! :biggrin:

[Joe G]

We saw how splotchy that thing turned out...

Thought that was just graffiti from the Mexican gangs? :bandit:

[68fastback]

Thought that was just graffiti from the Mexican gangs? :bandit:


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14756&d=1445444979 TG found! :giggle:

[onecrazydog]

Was just texting with Snap On Clint checking to see if the 1/4 inch drive torque wrench i ordered was in... I also told him about the air dryer I wanted but he doesn't have access to those IR products... I can order it locally though...

He is ordering this up for me though,

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Gonna need to come up with a name for my sand blast and paint & powder coat side business!!

[68fastback]

You are going to have one fine shop!! :yes:

Stacey, did you already order the compressor (I forget) ...I saw this 80 gal 7.5HP 175 psi 24cfm@90psi twin-cyl IR at Tractor Supply t (http://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/catalog/air-compressors)he other day -- impressive unit ($1999). Seemed similar to the one you were looking at and very high ratings... Mentioning because that's $200 less than Air Compressors Direct has it for.

...and then there's the rotary-screw IR compressors :faint: lol

[onecrazydog]

Already ordered it, should be here late next week... A rotary screw compressor would be sweet!!

[Tommy Gun]

We saw how splotchy that thing turned out...



:ohsnap:

[onecrazydog]

I have been looking at some different airline systems for ideas... I only need a couple drops for air and water drainage, so nothing too fancy... Planning on going with L type copper, not sure what width yet?

Think I might have the flow come out of the compressor, thru a small manifold, then to the cooler dryer, and finally to the drops...

Something like this but not as many loops,

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I like the way this guy did the drops,

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Any ideas, better plans?

[68fastback]

I have been looking at some different airline systems for ideas... I only need a couple drops for air and water drainage, so nothing too fancy... Planning on going with L type copper, not sure what width yet?

Think I might have the flow come out of the compressor, thru a small manifold, then to the cooler dryer, and finally to the drops...

Something like this but not as many loops,

14791


I like the way this guy did the drops,

14792

Any ideas, better plans?

That's kinda cool! Is that using the fan of the compressor pulley to cool (warm?) that condensing array? I guess warming would not be desirable so maybe fan is blowing away from the wall? Nice RYO design!

[Carnut]

I have been looking at some different airline systems for ideas... I only need a couple drops for air and water drainage, so nothing too fancy... Planning on going with L type copper, not sure what width yet?

Think I might have the flow come out of the compressor, thru a small manifold, then to the cooler dryer, and finally to the drops...

Something like this but not as many loops,

14791


I like the way this guy did the drops,

14792

Any ideas, better plans?

Copper is forever. Make sure to run your lines so they slope (downhill away from the compressor) to a drain at each outlet. I used to run a filter dryer at the compressor and one at the outlet. Drain it daily when you are using it and you should never have a problem. I wouldn't do that loop up and down without an end of run drain (might trap water in the line).

[onecrazydog]

Copper is forever. Make sure to run your lines so they slope to a drain at each outlet. I used to run a filter dryer at the compressor and one at the outlet. Drain it daily when you are using it and you should never have a problem. I wouldn't do that loop up and down without an end of run drain (might trap water in the line).

On the loop down I was thinking of putting a T halfway to a regulator and a drain at the bottom!! Good idea on the mainline slope!!

[Carnut]

On the loop down I was thinking of putting a T halfway to a regulator and a drain at the bottom!! Good idea on the mainline slope!!

Quick connect on the side, down leg on the tee for 12 inches so and a valve on the bottom. That was you can easily drain the line. I put a 90 degree fitting on the bottom so whatever is in the line doesn't spray on wall. Just don't stand in front of when draining under pressure.

[onecrazydog]

Cool ideas!!

[Carnut]

One other thing I did to my compressor was ad a pipe and valve on the drain plug on the very bottom. That way you can easily drain your tank, daily if you are running it hard. To that pipe and valve I added a barbed fitting and a length of 3/8 inch hose so I could stuff it in a plastic bottle while draining the tank. In a cold wet environment, you can build up a lot of water in the tank which in turn gets in your air lines. A dry tank keeps it from rusting out prematurely too.

[Joe G]

One other thing I did to my compressor was ad a pipe and valve on the drain plug on the very bottom. That way you can easily drain your tank, daily if you are running it hard. To that pipe and valve I added a barbed fitting and a length of 3/8 inch hose so I could stuff it in a plastic bottle while draining the tank. In a cold wet environment, you can build up a lot of water in the tank which in turn gets in your air lines. A dry tank keeps it from rusting out prematurely too.

:goodpost:

:pics:

[onecrazydog]

Yes, pics!!

[Carnut]

My old Kodak Brownie is unpacked as of yet. Sorry.

[Joe G]

My old Kodak Brownie is unpacked as of yet. Sorry.

:doh:

Phone?

[The Bone]

Instead of running the lines vertical in a loop like that go horizontal. put the air outlet above the last line and install a drain in the last loop.

[Carnut]

:doh:

Phone?

I don't have your number.

[Tommy Gun]

I don't have your number.


And I don't have yours. :(

[Joe G]

I don't have your number.

Take a pic with it and post it here. :doh:

[Carnut]

I have a phone silly, not a camera. Sheesh.

[onecrazydog]

Compressor is going to be delivered today... Got a text that it is "Big, heavy, and awkward as hell"...

:flex:

[onecrazydog]

:woohoo:


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14807&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14808&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14809&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14810&stc=1

[68fastback]

:banana:

[Tommy Gun]

:woohoo:


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14807&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14808&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14809&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14810&stc=1



Old text :rolleyes:



LOL

.

[Joe G]

Old text :rolleyes:



LOL

.

I never get :canada: texts. :nonono:

[Joe G]

Got a text that it is "Big, heavy, and awkward as hell"...

:flex:
Sharun?

[Tommy Gun]

I never get :canada: texts. :nonono:


Probably tired of paying so much for light bulbs. :look:

[onecrazydog]

She's a beauty!! Sure looks fast too!!


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14813&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14814&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14815&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14816&stc=1

The end cupboard has to go, but she should fit fine in the corner!!

[Carnut]

That big boy ought to vibrate the floor nicely. They also tend to walk around unless you bolt them down. I used shock stem rubbers with bolts through vibration pads, seemed to help a lot.

[Joe G]

That big boy ought to vibrate the floor nicely. They also tend to walk around unless you bolt them down. I used shock stem rubbers with bolts through vibration pads, seemed to help a lot.

:pics:

[Carnut]

No habla por favor.

[Shelby-Don]

That big boy ought to vibrate the floor nicely. They also tend to walk around unless you bolt them down. I used shock stem rubbers with bolts through vibration pads, seemed to help a lot.

Don't let Heidi see this, she might want a big boy that vibrates !

[Joe G]

Don't let Heidi see this, she might want a big boy that vibrates !

:lastweek:

[Tommy Gun]

Don't let Heidi see this, she might want a big boy that vibrates !


She wants Joe? :look:

[Joe G]

She wants Joe? :look:

:jiggy:

[onecrazydog]

Evening delivery!!

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14872&stc=1


Brought me this,

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14873&stc=1

[Joe G]

Night delivery?


You got it bad!!



And your dealer must be making a killing if he makes night-time home deliveries. :hilarious:

[68fastback]

They should just leave the truck overnight, reweigh it in the a.m. and charge by the pound. :biggrin:

[onecrazydog]

Night delivery?


You got it bad!!



And your dealer must be making a killing if he makes night-time home deliveries. :hilarious:



Lol, I asked if all his customers get this treatment... He said just the ones he really likes dealing with...

I found out today that the dealers get billed from Snap on as soon as they order something... If the dealer gets someone financing thru Snap on credit and they skip out, he is still responsible for it...

He said it is the worst part of his job and has a 4 page hit list at about 18 grand owed...

[onecrazydog]

They should just leave the truck overnight, reweigh it in the a.m. and charge by the pound. :biggrin:


In my neighborhood even the truck would disappear...

[onecrazydog]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14877&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14878&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14879&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14880&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14881&stc=1

[Tommy Gun]

Lol, I asked if all his customers get this treatment... He said just the ones he really likes dealing with...

I found out today that the dealers get billed from Snap on as soon as they order something... If the dealer gets someone financing thru Snap on credit and they skip out, he is still responsible for it...

He said it is the worst part of his job and has a 4 page hit list at about 18 grand owed...


I have a friend who was with SnapOn before, he ended up claiming bankruptcy because of this a few years back when the economy took a dump and many mechanics here lost their jobs...or moved to different dealers. :(

[Tommy Gun]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14877&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14878&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14879&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14880&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14881&stc=1


You'll have some fun with that! :wtg:

[The Bone]

I'm moving next door to Stacy.
:hi: neighbor

[Joe G]

I have a friend who was with SnapOn before, he ended up claiming bankruptcy because of this a few years back when the economy took a dump and many mechanics here lost their jobs...or moved to different dealers. :(

Yep, heard similar stories. Not really fair for a small business guy to take on all the risk considering all of the potential scumbags that he's selling to.


Guess that's why they have the high markups on their stuff - have to hedge against the losses.

[68fastback]

In my neighborhood even the truck would disappear...

:rofl3:

---

...that blast station is real nice!! Way cool!

[onecrazydog]

I have been looking at these air systems instead of copper...

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14888&stc=1

Going to do some price checking next week...

[Tommy Gun]

:spend:


Hope you can take it w you when you move?

[onecrazydog]

:spend:


Hope you can take it w you when you move?

That's one of the major reasons for going with a system like that... Plus I can install it myself...


Do you have anything constructive to add?

[Tommy Gun]

Yes

[onecrazydog]

Liar...

[Tommy Gun]

Liar...



Will you have a dedicated line for air tool use, one that has an oil supply?


:uwelcome:

[onecrazydog]

No...

[onecrazydog]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14893&stc=1

Pretty bright thru the glass,

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14894&stc=1

Not strange dust collection,

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14895&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=14896&stc=1

[Tommy Gun]

Strange if you've never seen a set up like that before. :look:


Most I've seen have a stand alone vacuum canister away from the booth.


I do like that there are "2" exits though.

[Carnut]

My old blast cabinet used a separate canister vacuum that I put outside when I ran it. This setup looks pretty cool although I wonder how well it keeps the blasting media out of the working parts resulting in short life for the units. Since it is a Snap On for commercial use, I suspect they have considered that.

[onecrazydog]

My old blast cabinet used a separate canister vacuum that I put outside when I ran it. This setup looks pretty cool although I wonder how well it keeps the blasting media out of the working parts resulting in short life for the units. Since it is a Snap On for commercial use, I suspect they have considered that.

I was looking at the canister vacuums, seems like a better idea and easier to clean... Future mod!! Lol!!

[onecrazydog]

Strange if you've never seen a set up like that before. :look:





:sneaking2:

[Tommy Gun]

I was looking at the canister vacuums, seems like a better idea and easier to clean... Future mod!! Lol!!


What's strange to me is this...the motors blow the material into the bags, in order for this to happen air must be able to escape the bag...hence dust to some degree in the shop. W a canister type I "think" less dust or can be placed outside during use.

[68fastback]

:idea: ...could possibly just port those bags 'outside' (into a protected area/enclosure) with some pvc pipe -- easy peasy?

[Tommy Gun]

Yep :wtg:

Just food for thought when he goes bigtime...

[onecrazydog]

Going with this stuff in 3/4"!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM1FtJXQfvQ

[Carnut]

Looks expensive.

[Tommy Gun]

Looks expensive.

He doesn't like negative, tell him they look well made from quality materials w no expense spared. :look:

[Carnut]

Oh, okay. That stuff looks serviceable.

[Tommy Gun]

There ya go...

[Joe G]

:spend::spend:

[onecrazydog]

Oh, okay. That stuff looks serviceable.

:webers:

[68fastback]

Real nice system!! ...and push-together is easy peasy for sure.

---

...there's also Duratec ...less fittings needed (comes clean and nitrogen purged in large coils) esp if you don't need a lot of service points


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-Gmxi9N13Y

[onecrazydog]

Looks expensive.



The pipe is 45 bucks for a 16' length of 3/4"... The fittings go from 15 to 30 bucks each... It could add up fast for a bypass equipped air system with a few drops... Could do a basic system for a few hundred bucks...

[onecrazydog]

I ordered up some pipe and a few fittings to at least get the air line started... I can add the filters and regulators when I can afford them... Then I will do the dryer/cooler last...

I am going to do the main run up the wall about 8 feet, then across it about 20 feet at a slight slope, then back down for a drain leg all in 1" pipe... Then I will have 3 3/4 inch drops between the main run... The three drops will also have drain valves on the bottom and t'd horizontal runs...


http://infinitypiping.com/Infinity%20Catalog%202013.pdf

http://www.appliedsystemtech.com/

[The Bone]

That stuff looks expensive. They have stuff out there that is just as good and cheaper. Brass fittings and connections are not needed. The most pressure in the air lines will be 80 pounds. You may run more in the tank but you need a regulator in the tank to keep the pressure down. Not sure what the max pressure on the blast cabinet is but I would guess 80 pounds.
Try these guyshttp://www.rapidairproducts.com/

[onecrazydog]

That stuff looks expensive. They have stuff out there that is just as good and cheaper. Brass fittings and connections are not needed.


It is...

No they don't...

Yes they are...

:rofl3:


But seriously, I know the plastic stuff would work fine and be cheaper but I just don't like it... I think the brass fittings look cooler and aesthetics matter to me...

Cabinet runs at 100 psi, min 18cfm... The plan was to leave the main line full psi from the compressor and run regulators at the drops?? Have to do some more research on that aspect though...

[onecrazydog]

Ok fine, I realize I have some minor "issues", but I get along fine with all the voices in my head!!

[68fastback]

That is one very complete system they make!! :faint:

I notice they base everything on an arbitrary 1 psi pressure drop. I don't know how to calculate it, but at a 2 psi drop you might be able to go a whole pipe size smaller ...even for longer runs, unless you have tools that actually need the full flow at the max pressure the compressor is capable of -- which is highly unlikely. Just a thought. Still I guess I'd want to go full bore on general principle unless cost diff was so prohibitive since you're really only doing this once.

Awesome stuff!!

[Joe G]

Ok fine, I realize I have some minor "issues", but I get along fine with all the voices in my head!!

:yea1:

[onecrazydog]

That is one very complete system they make!! :faint:

I notice they base everything on an arbitrary 1 psi pressure drop. I don't know how to calculate it, but at a 2 psi drop you might be able to go a whole pipe size smaller ...even for longer runs, unless you have tools that actually need the full flow at the max pressure the compressor is capable of -- which is highly unlikely. Just a thought.

Could have used 1/2 inch pipe for the short run I am doing... Compressor pushes 175 psi, won't need that much ever!!



Still I guess I'd want to go full bore on general principle unless cost diff was so prohibitive since you're really only doing this once.

Awesome stuff!!

Now we are on the same page!!


I was going to do the whole system in 3/4"... The pipes are 16' long so I figured 6 would do at 45 bucks each... $270 bucks for what seems the best pipe a person could use doesn't seem bad to me... Since the 1" pipe is only 9 dollars more I decided to go with three of each and do the main run in 1"... Cost 27 bucks extra and will look cool and hold more air volume...

The fittings is where it can add up fast!! The ease of install is what I really like though, and it will be easy to change or add runs in the future...

Speaking of the future, the plan is to buy some land just outside the city and build a huge shop... Then leave it, the car, truck, trailer, everything to my nephews and nieces to share but not sell!! In the meantime my friends and self can enjoy it all!!

[Joe G]

Speaking of the future, the plan is to buy some land just outside the city and build a huge shop... Then leave it, the car, truck, trailer, everything to my nephews and nieces to share but not sell!!

What do you mean "leave it... to nephews and nieces...."???

[Joe G]

In the meantime my friends and self can enjoy it all!!

Kinda far from Goatsville. :popcorn:

[onecrazydog]

What do you mean "leave it... to nephews and nieces...."???

In my will...

[onecrazydog]

Kinda far from Goatsville. :popcorn:

Road trip!!

[The Bone]

So now you have all the tools you will ever need. The Gt500 is finished. The truck is finished. So what you going to do with all those new tools?

[68fastback]

...build a punkin chunkin machine for 2016?! :banana: ;-)

[Joe G]

In my will...

Oh!





Hopefully not for MANY years. :wtg:

[Joe G]

Road trip!!

I can pick up my TVS! :idea:













Oh wait... :kickrock:












:haha:

[Tommy Gun]

Ok fine, I realize I have some minor "issues", but I get along fine with all the voices in my head!!


Quote of the month :wtg:

[Tommy Gun]

...build a punkin chunkin machine for 2016?! :banana: ;-)


:ohsnap:

[onecrazydog]

I can pick up my TVS! :idea:













Oh wait... :kickrock:












:haha:



Opps... :tiptoe2:

[onecrazydog]

So now you have all the tools you will ever need. The Gt500 is finished. The truck is finished. So what you going to do with all those new tools?



There are way more tools to buy yet, wrenches are next!! Car still needs built motor, auto, viking front struts that are in development, and a paint job soon!! Haven't even started on the truck, suspension, stereo, supercharger!! In the future I would like to do some ground up restorations and build a drift car... Plus I help buddies that don't have tools work on their cars!!

[Tommy Gun]

Built motor :drool:

[Joe G]

Opps... :tiptoe2:

:sad2:

[onecrazydog]

Will this design work as a full bypass, or am I missing something?


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15011&stc=1


Most I see are over top bypasses...


I probably wouldn't need two of the shut offs...

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15012&stc=1



Please excuse the rough drafts!! Lol...

[onecrazydog]

Quote of the month :wtg:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHkozMIXZ8w

[Tommy Gun]

Will this design work as a full bypass, or am I missing something?


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15011&stc=1


Most I see are over top bypasses...


I probably wouldn't need two of the shut offs...

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15012&stc=1



Please excuse the rough drafts!! Lol...

I don't have a clue what you're trying to do. :look:

[onecrazydog]

I don't have a clue what you're trying to do. :look:



A new week and nothing has changed...

[Carnut]

Why do you need any of the sov's,(except one on the compressor) or a bypass for that matter?

[onecrazydog]

Why do you need any of the sov's,(except one on the compressor) or a bypass for that matter?



Because there is something wrong with me and I gave up fighting it long ago...

:rofl3:

[Carnut]

Well OK then, carry on.

[onecrazydog]

I won't be able to get the cooler/dryer for awhile but want to have the air line ready for it... I figured a bypass system with a few shut off valves would work good, and maybe look cool too!!

I will be the first to admit that I have no clue what I am doing, but if I let that stop me I wouldn't get anything done...

[68fastback]

I won't be able to get the cooler/dryer for awhile but want to have the air line ready for it... I figured a bypass system with a few shut off valves would work good, and maybe look cool too!!

I will be the first to admit that I have no clue what I am doing, but if I let that stop me I wouldn't get anything done...


Wow! Two quotes-of-the-month in one month! :wtg:

[Joe G]

Because there is something wrong with me and I gave up fighting it long ago...

:rofl3:

:logical:

[Tommy Gun]

I won't be able to get the cooler/dryer for awhile but want to have the air line ready for it... I figured a bypass system with a few shut off valves would work good, and maybe look cool too!!

I will be the first to admit that I have no clue what I am doing, but if I let that stop me I wouldn't get anything done...

You werent the first to admit it. :look:

[The Bone]

One thing to think about it the more fittings you have the more chances for leaks. My thing is figure out where you want the drops and keep it simple. I have a hose reel in the center of the garage. It has 50 foot of hose and reaches to all 4 tires on the car in the driveway. So all you need is a drop for the blast cabinet and one for a hose reel. 50 foot of 5/8 hose is all you will ever need. Dont get those curly hose crap. You wont like them. They get tangled and dont lay flat on the floor so you trip over them.

[onecrazydog]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15067&stc=1

Guess I am going to have to polish this one too... They didn't have a brass 3/4 Tee, so I went with steel instead of black pipe... The guy said it's overkill, I said no such thing exists...

[Alloy Dave]

Hey OCD, I know you're getting a stationary unit, but if you are considering a portable unit, get a recent issue of a magazine called "Family Handyman"...they do a comparison of about a dozen units. I subscribe to it.

Edit: Looks like I found the article online....

http://www.familyhandyman.com/tools/air-tools/how-to-choose-an-air-compressor/view-all

[onecrazydog]

One thing to think about it the more fittings you have the more chances for leaks. My thing is figure out where you want the drops and keep it simple. I have a hose reel in the center of the garage. It has 50 foot of hose and reaches to all 4 tires on the car in the driveway. So all you need is a drop for the blast cabinet and one for a hose reel. 50 foot of 5/8 hose is all you will ever need. Dont get those curly hose crap. You wont like them. They get tangled and dont lay flat on the floor so you trip over them.

I have a hose reel on my workbench that reaches the whole garage too!!

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15068&stc=1


One drop for the blast cabinet, one drop with a 4 port manifold for the hose reel, and extra hoses if needed, and one drop for painting and powder coating... All on one wall...

I have about 175 feet of red 3/8 hose in assorted lengths!!

[Joe G]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15067&stc=1

Guess I am going to have to polish this one too... They didn't have a brass 3/4 Tee, so I went with steel instead of black pipe... The guy said it's overkill, I said no such thing exists...

:faint:

[68fastback]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15067&stc=1

Guess I am going to have to polish this one too... They didn't have a brass 3/4 Tee, so I went with steel instead of black pipe... The guy said it's overkill, I said no such thing exists...

Looks great!! But you've got it bad :yes: :grin:

[onecrazydog]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15073&stc=1
http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15074&stc=1



I call this the industrial shine!! Clean but with character!!


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15075&stc=1

[Carnut]

You need help. LOL

[onecrazydog]

You need help. LOL



No doubt, I could get a lot more projects done!!

[Joe G]

:hilarious:

[Highwayman]

No doubt, I could get a lot more projects done!!

:spitcopy:

[Carnut]

:webers:

[Tommy Gun]

You polished off all the zinc coating, now it's gonna rust. :nonono:

[68fastback]

It's sort of amazing, but when I was refurbing one of my amps it's dolly has 4 old solid zinc-coated casters which I disassembled. I was hesitant but decided I'd use two rotary wire brushes on the grinder -- one course to remove all the surface 'gray' and one fine to bring up the luster a bit. Amazing thing is that even stored in the basement now for two years, they look like the day I cleaned them. I thinking somehow zinc never really comes off steel ...it's like it almost gets burnished in -- dunno, but it's pretty amazing that they haven't changed one bit since. I used wire wheels not buffing and polishing compounds (which I considered but decided not to use. Here's a pic of the before and after:

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15076&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15078&stc=1

[Tommy Gun]

:ssshhh: zinc/galvanized coatings are attached through electrolysis and would "most likely" require grinding to remove enough to cause rusting, I was messing w OCD but don't tell him. :look:

[Tommy Gun]

And you did a great job on those casters.

[onecrazydog]

:ssshhh: zinc/galvanized coatings are attached through electrolysis and would "most likely" require grinding to remove enough to cause rusting, I was messing w OCD but don't tell him. :look:


:flex:

[68fastback]

:ssshhh: zinc/galvanized coatings are attached through electrolysis and would "most likely" require grinding to remove enough to cause rusting, I was messing w OCD but don't tell him. :look:

Ah, that makes sense ...like electro-galvanized nails (tho hot-dipped are better -lol).


And you did a great job on those casters.

Thanks!

[onecrazydog]

Time to hook it up, 40 amps so I guess #8 wire should work??


Looks like they made it pretty easy to wire,

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15080&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15081&stc=1

[Joe G]

Time to hook it up, 40 amps so I guess #8 wire should work??




CU or AL?

Depends on distance from the panel to the compressor.

It's on a 40 amp breaker... but what's the operating watts/amps?



http://static.rcgroups.net/forums/attachments/3/0/9/8/5/3/a6448405-101-wire_chart.gif

[68fastback]

This for the compressor, yes? Is that a DC chart, Joe?

---

Also, it's good to go one gauge larger than required for high-induction loads (like motors driving compressors!) due to large in-rush current demand on motor start-up -- definitely helps motor last longer.

The 'start' capacitor(s) on the motor itself will help the motor start reliably but can neither mitigate the effect of in-rush demand nor motor heat under high loads due to a supply wire-gauge (or push-on connector) voltage drop.

---

Stacey, why are you using those push-ons vs the screw-clamps (looks like wire was clipped-off?) ...the clamps are MUCH better under high current loads and generate virtually no heat/losses.

[Joe G]

This for the compressor, yes? I think that's a DC chart ...AC distances are much more linear.


:doh2: Yep, wrong chart.

I like calculators like this: http://www.paigewire.com/pumpWireCalc.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

[68fastback]

:doh2: Yep, wrong chart.

I like calculators like this: http://www.paigewire.com/pumpWireCalc.aspx?AspxAutoDetectCookieSupport=1

I like that...

240v 40A 50' copper = 8AWG

[onecrazydog]

This for the compressor, yes? Is that a DC chart, Joe?

---

Also, it's good to go one gauge larger than required for high-induction loads (like motors driving compressors!) due to large in-rush current demand on motor start-up -- definitely helps motor last longer.

The 'start' capacitor(s) on the motor itself will help the motor start reliably but can neither mitigate the effect of in-rush demand nor motor heat under high loads due to a supply wire-gauge (or push-on connector) voltage drop.

---

Stacey, why are you using those push-ons vs the screw-clamps (looks like wire was clipped-off?) ...the clamps are MUCH better under high current loads and generate virtually no heat/losses.

I haven't touched any of the wiring, it came that way, they put the cut off ends on to show where the wires go!! Same with that cut off ground... Kinda cool...

[onecrazydog]

I like that...

240v 40A 50' copper = 8AWG

I will only need about 6 feet...

[onecrazydog]

:doh2: Yep, wrong chart.




FAIL!!



:giggle:

[68fastback]

I haven't touched any of the wiring, it came that way, they put the cut off ends on to show where the wires go!! Same with that cut off ground... Kinda cool...

Ah, so the push-ons are their wiring from the motor? Where do you wire to? Maybe that's not in the pic?


I will only need about 6 feet...

:wtg:

[Joe G]

FAIL!!



:giggle:

:hey2:

[onecrazydog]

Ah, so the push-ons are their wiring from the motor? Where do you wire to? Maybe that's not in the pic?





The push-ons go to the on/off pressure switch... The wires for the motor are on screw terminals... I wire to the screw terminals where the black and red cutoffs are right now... They put the color coded cut offs in to show where to terminate the wires!! You pull them out and throw them away...

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15082&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15083&stc=1

[68fastback]

Ok, that makes complete sense -- that's the best way to do it. :tiphat2:

[Tommy Gun]

I haven't touched any of the wiring, it came that way, they put the cut off ends on to show where the wires go!! Same with that cut off ground... Kinda cool...


Cool :wtg:

[onecrazydog]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15124&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15125&stc=1

[Carnut]

I think that fitting at the bottom is going to break over time because it is heavy, the compressor will move around on those vibration pads and the metal will fatigue. I would suggest mounting the gauge on the heavy stuff on the wall and using a flexible hose between the two. And yes, I had this problem before, took it while but it did break. Your choice.

I never had a problem with a short nipple, sov and hose fitting then the hose to the wall and remaining pipe for what that is worth.

[The Bone]

Carnut is right. You need to use a flexible hose on the compressor and mount the gauge on the wall. You may be surprised at how much vibration a compressor has. Not sure why they put the outlet at the bottom of the tank. Thats where the water condenses in the tank. Water is heavier than air so my idea is there is more moisture in the air at the bottom of the tank than in the top of the tank.

[Joe G]

Water is heavier than air
:wow2: :logical:





:giggle:

[The Bone]

:thanks: Joe

[onecrazydog]

I think that fitting at the bottom is going to break over time because it is heavy, the compressor will move around on those vibration pads and the metal will fatigue. I would suggest mounting the gauge on the heavy stuff on the wall and using a flexible hose between the two. And yes, I had this problem before, took it while but it did break. Your choice.

I never had a problem with a short nipple, sov and hose fitting then the hose to the wall and remaining pipe for what that is worth.


Carnut is right. You need to use a flexible hose on the compressor and mount the gauge on the wall. You may be surprised at how much vibration a compressor has. Not sure why they put the outlet at the bottom of the tank. Thats where the water condenses in the tank. Water is heavier than air so my idea is there is more moisture in the air at the bottom of the tank than in the top of the tank.


Parade rainers!! The only reason I put the T and gauge on there was I thought it looked cool...


The air at the bottom of the tank is cooler than the air at the top!! I asked about that because there is a port that is higher up on the other side of the tank...

I planned on using a flexible hose from the compressor to the air line!! Air line isn't here yet so I don't know what length of hose is needed...

[Carnut]

Okay. What is worse, raining or mocking, sheesh.

[68fastback]

Next step up for Stacey...

...and it's already red inside! :biggrin:

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15126&stc=1

World's largest air compressor :rofl3:

[Tommy Gun]

I think that fitting at the bottom is going to break over time because it is heavy, the compressor will move around on those vibration pads and the metal will fatigue. I would suggest mounting the gauge on the heavy stuff on the wall and using a flexible hose between the two. And yes, I had this problem before, took it while but it did break. Your choice.

I never had a problem with a short nipple, sov and hose fitting then the hose to the wall and remaining pipe for what that is worth.


I don't particularly care for short nipples.


.

[Tommy Gun]

Parade rainers!! The only reason I put the T and gauge on there was I thought it looked cool...


The air at the bottom of the tank is cooler than the air at the top!! I asked about that because there is a port that is higher up on the other side of the tank...

I planned on using a flexible hose from the compressor to the air line!! Air line isn't here yet so I don't know what length of hose is needed...


My guess is they are issuing some constructive criticism ....

[onecrazydog]

Okay. What is worse, raining or mocking, sheesh.


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15127&stc=1



Hope you guys are happy now...

:rofl3:

[onecrazydog]

My guess is they are issuing some constructive criticism ....


:look:

[Joe G]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15127&stc=1



Hope you guys are happy now...

:rofl3:


Short nipple! :woohoo:




:look:

[Carnut]

:smile:

[The Bone]

No Teflon tape :fail:

[onecrazydog]

It's not tightened yet... Test fit...

[Tommy Gun]

:waiting2:

[Carnut]

It's not tightened yet... Test fit...

That explains the fingerprints all over it.

[68fastback]

:spitcopy:

[Joe G]

That explains the fingerprints all over it.

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15130&stc=1

[onecrazydog]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15168&stc=1

[Tommy Gun]

Wow, didn't know a Raptor wasn't capable of carrying some plastic pipe. :faint:

[onecrazydog]

Wow, didn't know a Raptor wasn't capable of carrying some plastic pipe. :faint:


It's aluminum... And 16 feet long...

[Joe G]

Snow?!? :faint:

[Tommy Gun]

It's aluminum... And 16 feet long...


Oh, didn't know a Raptor wasn't capable of carrying some aluminum pipe.




:lol:

[onecrazydog]

Snow?!? :faint:



:canada:

[onecrazydog]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15173&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15174&stc=1

[Carnut]

Whatever happened to duct tape and bent over nails?

[Shelby-Don]

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15173&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15174&stc=1
Now a little polishing and then time to install

[Joe G]

:spend::spend::spend:

[onecrazydog]

I still need Filters and regulators... There will be no oil lubricators in the system at all... I put a few drops in the tools when I use them...

[onecrazydog]

:spend::spend::spend:



Says the guy with huge house and shop...

[Carnut]

I still need Filters and regulators... There will be no oil lubricators in the system at all... I put a few drops in the tools when I use them...

You will be glad for that if you paint anything.

[onecrazydog]

Now a little polishing and then time to install



The fittings already have a nice finish on them!!

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15184&stc=1

[onecrazydog]

You will be glad for that if you paint anything.


:webers: There will be painting involved!!

[Tommy Gun]

I still need Filters and regulators... There will be no oil lubricators in the system at all... I put a few drops in the tools when I use them...


I have always used air tools like that.

[Tommy Gun]

:webers: There will be painting involved!!


I seriously want to be one of your first customers.

Let me know what you're planning....



I think you would do things like I would do them if I had the equipment.



...sorry if that sounded gay Joe.

[68fastback]

I seriously want to be one of your first customers.

Let me know what you're planning....



I think you would do anything things like I would do them if I had the equipment.



...sorry if that sounded gay Joe.


Do you oil your tool too?

:rofl2:

[Tommy Gun]

Maybe :look:

[68fastback]

:rofl3:

[Joe G]

Says the guy with huge house and shop...

:hey2:

I'm just a simple working guy. Which is why the basement and shop are both unfinished. We'll see what this years bonus will be before things slowly get finished. :spend:

[Joe G]

...sorry if that sounded gay Joe.

It's ok. OCD's worthy of your flirtations. :look:









:giggle:

[onecrazydog]

:hey2:

I'm just a simple working guy. Which is why the basement and shop are both unfinished. We'll see what this years bonus will be before things slowly get finished. :spend:


:webers:

[Joe G]

:webers:

:webers:

[onecrazydog]

So many filter systems out there... Lol...

First filters I need are ones that come right after the compressor, and then the point of use ones with regulators...

These ones seem pretty good and look cool,

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15217&stc=1

50 CFM Series 2 Stage Filter Package
•Integral float drain ejects water and oil from large drain sump
•Protects your air tools and pneumatic equipment
•Packaged for painting, plasma cutting, & nitrogen generators
•Also critical automation applications

Water Separator
•Removes large amounts of moisture; eliminated by float drain
•Unique up-flow separation through a stainless steel mesh filter

Oil Coalescer
•Eliminates fish-eye flaws in paint finishes
•Removes oil, small aerosols, & fine particulates to .01 micron

Precision Regulator
•Easily choose the exact amount of air you need

OEM Choice for Product Protection
•Exceeding 50 SCFM may result in moisture carryover
•1/2" NPT connections fit many systems
•250 PSI maximum pressure; 200°F maximum temperature
•ISO Class <1

[Tommy Gun]

I've heard of oxygen regulators, even had one before, but never heard of a nitrogen regulator...

[onecrazydog]

It seems most companies say to put the filters as far down stream from the compressor as possible... Makes sense as the air has to be cool for the filters to work... I am going to build a manifold to cool the air a bit before the pre filters!!

Something like this,

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15218&stc=1


I think making it out of 1" copper will be cheaper than the aluminum pipe and press on fittings... I can get someone to braze it, then I can mount it on the wall!!

[Carnut]

It seems most companies say to put the filters as far down stream from the compressor as possible... Makes sense as the air has to be cool for the filters to work... I am going to build a manifold to cool the air a bit before the pre filters!!

Something like this,

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15218&stc=1


I think making it out of 1" copper will be cheaper than the aluminum pipe and press on fittings... I can get someone to braze it, then I can mount it on the wall!!

Soldering copper pipe is easy. Brazing is not necessary or easy on copper.

[Carnut]

I don't think building that manifold is going to be worth the effort. Maybe, if you were running that compressor all day long but I can't see that working out of a residential garage. You have a huge tank that will be likely be full and cool, which will cool incoming warmer air, you are probably not going to run the compressor continuously, paint gun will not use that much, the air where you live is probably not that humid (most of the time).

Just my opinion based upon my past experience with a similar sized system and usage.

[Tommy Gun]

What about his blast box? I know mine ran the compressor quite a bit.

[onecrazydog]

Soldering copper pipe is easy. Brazing is not necessary or easy on copper.


Soldering is what I meant...




I don't think building that manifold is going to be worth the effort. Maybe, if you were running that compressor all day long but I can't see that working out of a residential garage. You have a huge tank that will be likely be full and cool, which will cool incoming warmer air, you are probably not going to run the compressor continuously, paint gun will not use that much, the air where you live is probably not that humid (most of the time).

Just my opinion based upon my past experience with a similar sized system and usage.

True, the air here is pretty dry most of the time... The blast cabinet will use a ton of air, even my air grinders uses a lot... I think that with the air running right from the compressor thru the manifold, then to pre filters attached to the beginning of the aluminum pipe run, will allow me to delete the dryer/ cooler... I will also run various point of use filters...


http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15219&stc=1

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15220&stc=1

[Joe G]

Dang!! You sure don't do anything half-azzed do you?!? :giggle:

[onecrazydog]

Dang!! You sure don't do anything half-azzed do you?!? :giggle:


Lol, all in!!

[onecrazydog]

Made a better drawing,

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15221&stc=1

Priced it out and it will be under 300 bucks for 35' of 3/4" L copper pipe and fittings...


I like how the person did the tops of this one, I might copy the design and mounting idea!!

http://stangsunited.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=15222&stc=1

[Tommy Gun]

Dang!! You sure don't do anything half-azzed do you?!? :giggle:


You forget he put black stripes on his car. :look: