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Highwayman
01-29-2019, 11:54 AM
Does anyone have any experience with epoxy floors? I want to know how they hold up after having cars driving on them. I have been reading that they don't last more than an average of 5 years and less when constantly being driven on. Also if there isn't a vapor lining below the concrete the finish will peal from moisture seeping up through the concrete and lifting the finish.

I am also looking at simply having the floor sealed after being pressure washed and acid etched cleaned.

HSURB
01-29-2019, 12:48 PM
I put a two-part epoxy down in my 40 x 90 building. It was new construction and the Contractor sprayed a waxy sealant that slows the cure process down in Summer months. That was a challenge to get removed. I did put a Vapor Barrier down and poured a 6" floor. I have had it on there now around 16 years and I have a few spots where it has popped open a hole smaller than a dime, but overall it is lasting very well. I definitely don't drive on it daily. The front of the building I'm in and out of four times a week. The storage area in the back has much less traffic.

The Epoxy System I used was a two-part system that required you wear a Respirator. They now have water based options that don't have near the smell, but I have not researched the durability compared to the system I installed many years ago.

HSURB®

The Bone
01-29-2019, 01:04 PM
I just did my driveway and what a waste of money and time. I let the finish cure for 7 days and when i would park my car and truck in the driveway the epoxy would stick to my tires. Looks looks crap now. I can't believe the finish just stuck to my tires. I got mine at Home Depot.

68fastback
01-29-2019, 03:03 PM
Does anyone have any experience with epoxy floors? I want to know how they hold up after having cars driving on them. I have been reading that they don't last more than an average of 5 years and less when constantly being driven on. Also if there isn't a vapor lining below the concrete the finish will peal from moisture seeping up through the concrete and lifting the finish.

I am also looking at simply having the floor sealed after being pressure washed and acid etched cleaned.

This is key ...it's not even moisture (water) that does it; it's water vapor that will do it. Water vapor exerts pressure (I know, sounds crazy) on the surface finish (whether glue holding vinyl tile, paint, epoxy, no matter) and will literally push it up. That said, vapor barriers under slabs have been code for quite some time and were good practice long before that, so maybe you have one? Obviously a quality 'hard' epoxy is also important ...quality epoxy is expensive but much more durable. The issue Art had could be due to the temperature of the driveway. Even the best hard epoxies (which it may not have been) are softer with elevated temps like outdoors in CA. Indoors a good epoxy should not be a problem. Mixing is also key ...must be thoroughly mixed w/o introducing air...

Alloy Dave
01-29-2019, 03:13 PM
I did my own house when we built it...it's the house we live in now...1999 so it's now 20 years old. Admittedly I did it with relatively inexpensive materials...could not afford the professional job at the time (our garage is about 1210 sqft.). I don't have any photos specifically of the entire floor...but you can see the look in the photos below. My notes are:

1) I waited about 60-70 days from the pour date to do it
2) I acid etched the floor
3) Bought a two part epoxy from a big box store but mine does not have the flecks in it....it's a single color
4) It has held up very well....no peeling at all. The only spots where there are issues are where the concrete has spalled or broken up small chunks over time
5) Overall I'm very pleased with it except that it's slippery when wet (I asked the concrete guys to put a slightly rough surface on it, but they tried to do the entire job in one day and it dried too fast on half the garage so half has some texture and the other half is fairly smooth)
6) I clean mine about 2-3x/year with simple green and hot water with a big push broom, then hose it out. Takes about 3 hours to do since it's so large.

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Boston Mike
01-29-2019, 04:08 PM
The original monkey palace had epoxy done just after we closed/before we fully moved in. The slab did have a vapor barrier under it when poured (code) and ours was a two part (first part was the color base and the second was the clearcoat with silica sand for texture and holographic flakes to give it a cool color changing shine). Was installed in March 2012 and was still essentially flawless when we sold it in March 2017. Maybe a little of the glossy clearcoat had worn down where tires were, but not really noticable when I mopped it out periodically. It was a big 3 car garage (I guess maybe about as big as Dave's all together) so I had someone else install for me.

Highwayman
01-29-2019, 06:33 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses.

I will have someone else do it professionally. I am waiting on the quotes to see how much of a difference between staining and epoxy to know which way I want to go.

onecrazydog
01-29-2019, 07:36 PM
Thanks everyone for your responses.

I will have someone else do it professionally.


Great idea!! I epoxied my garage years ago... Never again... My Dad had a pro do his a few years ago and it still looks new...


I would get the floor ground down instead of acid etched... The epoxy will stick better and last longer...

Tommy Gun
01-29-2019, 10:45 PM
I put a two-part epoxy down in my 40 x 90 building. It was new construction and the Contractor sprayed a waxy sealant that slows the cure process down in Summer months. That was a challenge to get removed. I did put a Vapor Barrier down and poured a 6" floor. I have had it on there now around 16 years and I have a few spots where it has popped open a hole smaller than a dime, but overall it is lasting very well. I definitely don't drive on it daily. The front of the building I'm in and out of four times a week. The storage area in the back has much less traffic.

The Epoxy System I used was a two-part system that required you wear a Respirator. They now have water based options that don't have near the smell, but I have not researched the durability compared to the system I installed many years ago.

HSURB®



“Don’t drive on it daily”


:rofl2::rofl::biggrin::haha::lol::rofl::rofl2::hah a::hilarious::rofl::lol::haha::rofl::rofl2::hilari ous:




Or ever.


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Tommy Gun
01-29-2019, 10:47 PM
Great idea!! I epoxied my garage years ago... Never again... My Dad had a pro do his a few years ago and it still looks new...


I would get the floor ground down instead of acid etched... The epoxy will stick better and last longer...



Agree on the ground, rather than etched!

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twobjshelbys
01-30-2019, 12:15 AM
I used the Home Depot 2-part epoxy on the spec house and it looked good and as long as it took me to sell the thing it never looked like it was failing. I parked my Mustangs on it for a couple of years. Preparation is of key importance, and having a good vapor barrier is key too. I doubt an outside application would be successful since moisture would come from underneath.

Highwayman
02-01-2019, 09:23 PM
A contractor introduced me to polyaspartic coating that is supposed to be better than epoxy and comes with a lifetime warranty which none of the epoxy offers came with. I have started to do some research on this new coating and turns out it has been around for a long time mostly in commercial applications. It is a one day application that can be walked on an hour later and driven on 24 hours later.

Epoxy quotes were coming in around $1,800, this is $2,400. Almost worth the difference.

Go for it Dan let us see what you find... :popcorn:

68fastback
02-01-2019, 09:35 PM
Sounds great! ...if done right:

https://www.concretenetwork.com/polyaspartic-floor-coatings/

onecrazydog
02-01-2019, 09:39 PM
Go for it Dan let us see what you find... :popcorn:




Yup, we are so lucky to have Dan!! Dan is the Man!!

onecrazydog
02-01-2019, 09:45 PM
You should do a moisture test on the floor... Tape a 12 x 12 piece of thick poly to the floor so it is sealed, and check for any condensation under it... Leave it on for a few days...

onecrazydog
02-01-2019, 09:54 PM
Here's a good website with lots of info...

https://armorpoxy.com/




Make sure you have a good installer that knows his stuff!!

onecrazydog
02-01-2019, 09:56 PM
Here's a great forum on garage flooring,

https://www.garagejournal.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=20

Highwayman
02-01-2019, 09:56 PM
You should do a moisture test on the floor... Tape a 12 x 12 piece of thick poly to the floor so it is sealed, and check for any condensation under it... Leave it on for a few days...

The contractor offering the polyaspartic brought a device with him to measure the moisture, he was the only one.

68fastback
02-01-2019, 10:28 PM
The contractor offering the polyaspartic brought a device with him to measure the moisture, he was the only one.

Sounds like he really wants it to be done right. :wtg:

twobjshelbys
02-02-2019, 02:52 AM
Have you considered the floor tile type? The "racedeck" style interlocking tiles can look pretty nice.

Highwayman
02-02-2019, 01:45 PM
Have you considered the floor tile type? The "racedeck" style interlocking tiles can look pretty nice.

Briefly

Alloy Dave
02-03-2019, 03:13 PM
Sounds interesting, keep us posted and of course take photos BEFORE and after.


I started college as a Chemical Engineering major...but three semesters of lectures like the below quote and I was outta there lol

"Polyaspartic polyurea (or simply polyaspartics) overcomes many of those difficulties, while retaining the advantages. According to Bayer Material Science, polyaspartics are "based on the reaction of an aliphatic polyisocyanate and a polyaspartic ester, which is an aliphatic diamine."

68fastback
02-03-2019, 05:21 PM
:wtg:

Highwayman
02-14-2019, 01:57 AM
I have decided to do this myself.

Most quotes came in around $1,500 for Epoxy and $2,400 for Polyaspastic which isn't reasonable for this garage.

I am going with Rust-Oleum Rocksolid 2-Step epoxy. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-RockSolid-152-oz-Gray-Polycuramine-2-5-Car-Garage-Floor-Kit-286879/205697937. I did get it at Home Depot. The kit comes complete with everything needed.

This looks like something I can handle. I should be able to do the cleaning step in thee next day or two.

68fastback
02-14-2019, 02:23 AM
Way cool, Mark! :wtg: Hope it goes smoothly! Can't wait to see how it turns out!

Sounds like a great choice! ...had not heard of it before. Says it's 20x stronger than epoxy

"RockSolid Polycuramine™ is the best of Polyurea, Urethane and Epoxy chemistries. It combines these three chemistries and their key attributes into ONE indestructible, self-leveling, flexible, fast curing, high gloss coating system."

More... (http://s189356221.onlinehome.us/rs_interior/jupgrade/contact-us/3-rocksolid-floors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=323&Itemid=111)

Tommy Gun
02-14-2019, 10:02 AM
I have decided to do this myself.

Most quotes came in around $1,500 for Epoxy and $2,400 for Polyaspastic which isn't reasonable for this garage.

I am going with Rust-Oleum Rocksolid 2-Step epoxy. https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-RockSolid-152-oz-Gray-Polycuramine-2-5-Car-Garage-Floor-Kit-286879/205697937. I did get it at Home Depot. The kit comes complete with everything needed.

This looks like something I can handle. I should be able to do the cleaning step in thee next day or two.


Someone on the forum used epoxy on their back deck and year or three ago. Thought it was you, guess not?

Boston Mike
02-14-2019, 02:01 PM
Way cool, Mark! :wtg: Hope it goes smoothly! Can't wait to see how it turns out!

Sounds like a great choice! ...had not heard of it before. Says it's 20x stronger than epoxy

"RockSolid Polycuramine™ is the best of Polyurea, Urethane and Epoxy chemistries. It combines these three chemistries and their key attributes into ONE indestructible, self-leveling, flexible, fast curing, high gloss coating system."

More... (http://s189356221.onlinehome.us/rs_interior/jupgrade/contact-us/3-rocksolid-floors/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=323&Itemid=111)

I hope that there is some sort of texture in the setup................otherwise that high gloss is gonna be high slip and someone won't be happy if she falls and spills her wine!!!! :grin:

Highwayman
02-14-2019, 03:44 PM
I hope that there is some sort of texture in the setup................otherwise that high gloss is gonna be high slip and someone won't be happy if she falls and spills her wine!!!! :grin:

Good example!

There is an adder anti-skid I also got.

68fastback
02-14-2019, 03:58 PM
Good example!

There is an adder anti-skid I also got.

How does that part work, Mark ...is it added in or broadcast on top or...?

Boston Mike
02-14-2019, 04:46 PM
How does that part work, Mark ...is it added in or broadcast on top or...?

if it was like what was used in Monkey Palace #1, it's added into the clearcoat second coat.......

twobjshelbys
02-14-2019, 05:00 PM
I was happy with the home depot product if it is the same 2 part. Once you mix them you don't have much time before it starts to get hot and set. If you have more than one pail use half then mix the other pail and combine the two halves. Ypu do have your be quick. I just poured it on the floor and spread with roller. Prep is the key!

My kit had flecks but I didn't use them

Highwayman
02-14-2019, 07:30 PM
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-8-oz-Anti-Skid-Additive-301244/206495776

This explains the anti skid

68fastback
02-14-2019, 09:33 PM
Mixed in -- cool!

onecrazydog
02-14-2019, 10:18 PM
Pics of install or it doesn't happen...

Highwayman
02-15-2019, 03:55 AM
Pics of install or it doesn't happen...

Still figuring this out and gathering materials. I will do my best to pause during the progress and get pictures.

onecrazydog
02-15-2019, 07:18 PM
:waiting2:

68fastback
02-15-2019, 08:26 PM
Still figuring this out and gathering materials. I will do my best to pause during the progress and get pictures.

Be sure to buy extra and all the tools ...special rollers etc ...you can always return excess product but if you stretch it or run out you're sort of screwed.

Some of the additives are very cool!

I was reading the FAQ the other night ...says to start early in the morning ...to have rising (not falling) temps during the cure. Lots of good tips/requirements in the FAQs. Has a good application temp range (40-90 but 50-90 is better) but humidity could be an issue in FL (I think 80% was max, can't recall now). I'm sure you'll digest it all first ...I'm the same way. Heck, I read all that BS and I'm not even using the stuff :rofl3 ...just wanted t understand what's involved. ;-) Sounds like a great product!!

Tommy Gun
02-15-2019, 09:00 PM
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Oleum-8-oz-Anti-Skid-Additive-301244/206495776

This explains the anti skid


I used a similar additive when we did our sidewalk. We used this w the additive https://www.homedepot.com/p/BEHR-Premium-1-gal-YL-W11-Khaki-Shade-1-Part-Epoxy-Satin-Interior-Exterior-Concrete-and-Garage-Floor-Paint-90001/302355027

Our side walk was coming apart from previous years of using deicer on it and this epoxy coating has saved it. Looks like new a couple years, then I recoat here and there.

Holds up well for a sidewalk, but I wouldn’t use it in a garage w car weight on it.

The coating you showed looks nice and looks like it would hold up well if prepped right. :wtg:

Highwayman
02-15-2019, 10:36 PM
I am hoping to get the cleaning done tomorrow then possibly get to the application Sunday or Monday, depends on what else is going on... like a day at the beach :beach:

tekheavy
02-15-2019, 10:43 PM
I used a similar additive when we did our sidewalk. We used this w the additive https://www.homedepot.com/p/BEHR-Premium-1-gal-YL-W11-Khaki-Shade-1-Part-Epoxy-Satin-Interior-Exterior-Concrete-and-Garage-Floor-Paint-90001/302355027

Our side walk was coming apart from previous years of using deicer on it and this epoxy coating has saved it. Looks like new a couple years, then I recoat here and there.

Holds up well for a sidewalk, but I wouldn’t use it in a garage w car weight on it.

The coating you showed looks nice and looks like it would hold up well if prepped right. :wtg:

Deicer?? I didn't think it got that cold in Vagina Beach. :look:

Tommy Gun
02-16-2019, 11:56 AM
Deicer?? I didn't think it got that cold in Vagina Beach. :look:


It did once.

Highwayman
02-17-2019, 06:09 PM
Before Pictures. That is acetone paint that was spilled on the floor everywhere. I am going to grind the floor to get rid of that and the grease.

The walls will be painted too at some point

https://i.imgur.com/99fr2dX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/lBIHpSP.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/5rSKIxH.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/0kmdL3v.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/wZhn2cC.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/gGdIeyP.jpg

onecrazydog
02-17-2019, 06:16 PM
Nice!!

68fastback
02-17-2019, 06:23 PM
Just as well that you have to grind it to get off that acetone paint since that concrete was originally floated so would have to grind the surface first anyway.

Should be really sweet when it's done!!

Alternatively you can always put in a 2-lane bowling alley featuring happy hour with wine and Pringles! :banana: :lol: :hiding: ;-)

Tommy Gun
02-17-2019, 06:34 PM
Wow, how long is that?




The floor :trouble:

Highwayman
02-17-2019, 07:03 PM
Wow, how long is that?




The floor :trouble:

42'

Tommy Gun
02-17-2019, 09:43 PM
Nice

Alloy Dave
02-18-2019, 05:58 AM
Looks like a gas chamber, especially with that pipe in the back wall. LOL

Hope it goes well Mark!

Highwayman
02-18-2019, 10:58 PM
My body will confirm even if pictures aren't posted that this DID happen. I remember many many years ago wondering why people in their 50s would do stuff like this, well here I am at 55 doing this stuff :faint:

This is the rented grinder with a friends shop vac, the tools for the day
https://i.imgur.com/BXp8jIL.jpg

This is half way through the grinding. No completed picture because I was too concerned about getting things cleaned up to remember to take more pictures. I will get some in the morning. Oh and that is a pile of dust at the front on the floor.
https://i.imgur.com/AuNlFz1.jpg

onecrazydog
02-18-2019, 11:13 PM
Beauty!! You're doing it right!!

Can't wait to see it all finished!!

twobjshelbys
02-18-2019, 11:45 PM
You'll need to wash it down and vac (with wet vac) to get all of that dust out of the surface.

Highwayman
02-19-2019, 02:10 AM
Yes, the acid wash came with the kit. That will be tomorrow with a 24 hour drying time before applying the color coat.

twobjshelbys
02-19-2019, 03:17 AM
You should rinse it with water before the acid wash. You want to remove as much of the dust as possible. Let water get the residue so the wash works on the concrete and not just dissolving ground concrete.

Highwayman
02-19-2019, 12:29 PM
You should rinse it with water before the acid wash. You want to remove as much of the dust as possible. Let water get the residue so the wash works on the concrete and not just dissolving ground concrete.

Got it, sounds like a good plan.

twobjshelbys
02-19-2019, 11:55 PM
pics????

Highwayman
02-20-2019, 12:07 AM
Had to work today. I should get the washing completed tomorrow.

Tommy Gun
02-20-2019, 12:12 PM
Work? :rolleyes:

Highwayman
02-20-2019, 12:21 PM
Yep, still at it :dog:

Tommy Gun
02-20-2019, 10:21 PM
:waiting2:

Highwayman
02-20-2019, 10:25 PM
Acid washed the floor today. No pictures to add, it's still the same floor as the previous pictures only micro cleaner, no micro fiber towel was used during this process.

Tommy Gun
02-21-2019, 01:45 AM
If you took the pic on micro we could see the difference. :nonono:

Highwayman
02-21-2019, 02:44 AM
Fine I will take a picture in the morning, GEEZ!!!

Highwayman
02-21-2019, 08:18 PM
Fine I will take a picture in the morning, GEEZ!!!

Well that didn't happen :tease2:

Highwayman
02-21-2019, 08:24 PM
Well... sometimes you try too hard to do it right that you over do it and cause yourself more issues.

Because of the spilled paint and oil spots I grounded the floor and acid etched it to get as much of it up as possible. In doing so I exposed more porous surface than normal and I ran out of product 2/3 of the way through applying the color coat today. I found this out when I called to ask if I can apply a second coat over the first coat in areas where the color from the spilled paint is still showing through, which I can and will tomorrow as I have to wait 18 hours before applying a second coat.

So I ended up needing two kits which helped me cover the entire floor once and provided a final pouch to do touch ups.

Here are the pictures to show that it did happen.

https://i.imgur.com/mGAT4Qr.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/XeEyjYX.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/eN7q1zW.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/V3g9Oby.jpg

68fastback
02-21-2019, 08:34 PM
Looks awesome, Mark!! ...I really like that 'terrazzo' look additive too :wtg:

Alloy Dave
02-22-2019, 03:45 AM
Looks nice! How about a summary? How many hours total? Cost? Cost/sqft? I think you'll love it.

onecrazydog
02-22-2019, 03:47 AM
Nice!!

twobjshelbys
02-22-2019, 08:42 PM
Sweet!!!

Tommy Gun
02-23-2019, 11:27 AM
Looks great in pictures. Is it what you expected in person?

Highwayman
02-23-2019, 12:34 PM
Looks nice! How about a summary? How many hours total? Cost? Cost/sqft? I think you'll love it.

:bangin: summary's come at the END

Highwayman
02-23-2019, 12:35 PM
Looks great in pictures. Is it what you expected in person?

So far Yes, still more to do

Tommy Gun
02-23-2019, 02:04 PM
:bangin: summary's come at the END



:spitcopy:


.

Highwayman
02-23-2019, 03:19 PM
Put the second coat of touch up this morning over those spots that soaked into the concrete.

For pictures see the previous set, there isn't any noticeable differences other than no dark areas

68fastback
02-23-2019, 04:14 PM
Dave doesn't want a summary any more ...he wants a full financial post mortem :giggle: :hiding:

Alloy Dave
02-24-2019, 05:23 AM
:trouble:

68fastback
02-24-2019, 06:34 PM
:lol:

Highwayman
02-24-2019, 11:41 PM
I still have the clear coating to apply.

My Estimate of costs:
Grinder rental from Home Depot $200
2 x Color Coating kits ($214 each) $428
Clear Coating $145
Miscellaneous items ~$30
Total ~$800

Total labor ~ 15 hours.

* A second color coating was unexpected but necessary because of how much grinding I had to do to the surface of the floor.

68fastback
02-24-2019, 11:49 PM
Mark, what do you figure ...about 420 sq ft? So, under $2/sq ft?

(...and a little over 2 minutes/sq ft -lol- not bad at all!)

Highwayman
02-25-2019, 12:15 AM
Mark, what do you figure ...about 420 sq ft? So, under $2/sq ft?

(...and a little over 2 minutes/sq ft -lol- not bad at all!)

460 sq ft

Redo your math again :waiting:

68fastback
02-25-2019, 01:04 AM
460 sq ft

Redo your math again :waiting:

:lol: okay...

...under $1.75/sq ft

...and a little under 2 minutes/sq ft

...burn rate of $0.89/min :giggle:

Any induced aches and pains requiring remedial ingestion of alcoholic sedatives or other drugs we need to figure in the cost?

Did it cause Teresa to burn through more, or more-expensive wines -- or purchase any expensive personal items to counterbalance?

What about the cost of gas to go get all that stuff?

And that plastic sheeting and painters' tape on the walls (I know, it's in the miscellaneous $30)

So many more questions Dave has! :lol: :hiding: :biggrin:

But the biggest post-mortem questions only you can answer:
- what was learned: essential do and/or avoid
- if you had to do it all over again what, if anything, would you change/do differently
- in the exploratory phase :shades: how did this choice compare to the other options you considered; what primarily made you choose this one (durability? cost? ...?); and would you do the same if you had it to do all over again?

I think I know the answers :innocent: ;-)

Btw, I think it's an absolutely awesome solution -- better than any of the other options I was aware of :wtg:

TG has put the 1- and 3-year follow-ups on the SU calendar :rofl3:

Tommy Gun
02-25-2019, 01:19 AM
Maybe :innocent:

68fastback
02-25-2019, 02:07 AM
:lol: :webers:

Highwayman
02-25-2019, 07:34 PM
Got the clear coat on today. I should be able to remove all of the tape and plastic on Wednesday and have full access to the garage for whatever.

Looking at tool boxes with a wooden top. Something in the 46" width range.

onecrazydog
02-25-2019, 08:24 PM
Got the clear coat on today. I should be able to remove all of the tape and plastic on Wednesday and have full access to the garage for whatever.

Looking at Snap On tool boxes with a wooden top. Something in the 46" width range.


Green?

Highwayman
02-25-2019, 08:41 PM
Green?

:kickrock: I can't justify Green

onecrazydog
02-25-2019, 08:49 PM
Get Red then!!

onecrazydog
02-25-2019, 08:50 PM
If you want a cheaper one, I heard the US General ones from Harbor Freight are pretty decent...

Highwayman
02-25-2019, 09:14 PM
I started looking at Craftsman (Lowes), Husky (Home Depot). I am not use to hearing that Harbor Freight has anything of value, was that sarcasm?

I do want the drawers to open every time with out jamming or sticking from the weight in them. I won't be using it daily.

I am also thinking that I should get something with an open area under it for me to sit at to work on things.

Tommy Gun
02-25-2019, 09:34 PM
Green?



:spitcopy:

onecrazydog
02-25-2019, 10:36 PM
I am not use to hearing that Harbor Freight has anything of value, was that sarcasm?

Nope!!


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zOwXBsCsY

tekheavy
02-25-2019, 10:38 PM
:faint:

twobjshelbys
02-25-2019, 10:41 PM
Harbor freight has some good things. Their low profile aluminum floor jack is high quality for low price. I got safety wire pliers of the same mfg from other places for 1/4 price. Things you don't use alot are good hf candidates. Plus we like their hummingbird landscape lights.

Highwayman
02-25-2019, 10:59 PM
I definitely want the wood top to work on. For Harbor Freight it looks like the Yukon which is actually more expensive than the Craftsman or the Husky. I saw a video online comparing the Husky and the Yukon and it makes the Yukon look to be the better purchase if the extra $100 doesn't matter to you.

https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage/tool-chests-roller-cabinets/46-in-9-drawer-mobile-workbench-with-solid-wood-top-63532.html

Alloy Dave
02-26-2019, 01:44 AM
I have no more questions

Tommy Gun
02-26-2019, 02:13 AM
:wow2:

68fastback
02-26-2019, 02:27 AM
Got the clear coat on today. I should be able to remove all of the tape and plastic on Wednesday and have full access to the garage for whatever.

Looking at tool boxes with a wooden top. Something in the 46" width range.

Well, that just screws up all those post-mortem calculations, doesn't it? :haha:

68fastback
02-26-2019, 02:31 AM
I definitely want the wood top to work on. For Harbor Freight it looks like the Yukon which is actually more expensive than the Craftsman or the Husky. I saw a video online comparing the Husky and the Yukon and it makes the Yukon look to be the better purchase if the extra $100 doesn't matter to you.

https://www.harborfreight.com/tool-storage/tool-chests-roller-cabinets/46-in-9-drawer-mobile-workbench-with-solid-wood-top-63532.html

The Harbor Freight in NJ near the grandkids had one that looks like that in red on display last summer -- it looked really well-made ...solid/heavy.

Tommy Gun
02-26-2019, 10:17 AM
When I was 20 I wanted tools and tool chest of the best quality I could afford.

As I’ve gotten older and don’t do as much mechanically, when I need new stuff I’m looking more that it will last 5-10 years.

I won’t be here forever, so the cost is almost more important than it lasting a lifetime...

Highwayman
02-26-2019, 10:23 AM
When I was 20 I wanted tools and tool chest of the best quality I could afford.

As I’ve gotten older and don’t do as much mechanically, when I need new stuff I’m looking more that it will last 5-10 years.

I won’t be here forever, so the cost is almost more important than it lasting a lifetime...

I agree, I won't be using it anywhere near as much these days as I used too.

Tommy Gun
02-27-2019, 01:14 AM
:look:

68fastback
02-27-2019, 01:32 AM
I saw Harbor Freight has one like that with the wood top on super-coupon through 4/30/19 for $249 ...in black. Dunno how good that one is.

Highwayman
02-27-2019, 02:04 AM
I saw Harbor Freight has one like that with the wood top on super-coupon through 4/30/19 for $249 ...in black. Dunno how good that one is.

Where is this coupon at?

tekheavy
02-27-2019, 02:19 AM
Where is this coupon at?

The internet.

68fastback
02-27-2019, 03:50 AM
I saw Harbor Freight has one like that with the wood top on super-coupon through 4/30/19 for $249 ...in black. Dunno how good that one is.


Where is this coupon at?

My mistake ...they had 48" 8-drawer (progressive sizes) in various colors with no wood on top for $239 -- you could easily add a piece of F1S (or cheaper) ply; and also, for $239, one drawer plus two doors with I think 4 shelves behind the doors with wood on top. I went back and checked your other post so seems that is not what you were looking for but the 8 drawer units be close (just add your own wood). I don't still have the circular but you should be able to find them online ...they were all good through 4/30 and you can pick up the super-coupon mailers in the store since the online price will likely not be as good as the circular coupon price.

Highwayman
03-05-2019, 12:41 PM
I did my own house when we built it...it's the house we live in now...1999 so it's now 20 years old. Admittedly I did it with relatively inexpensive materials...could not afford the professional job at the time (our garage is about 1210 sqft.). I don't have any photos specifically of the entire floor...but you can see the look in the photos below. My notes are:

1) I waited about 60-70 days from the pour date to do it
2) I acid etched the floor
3) Bought a two part epoxy from a big box store but mine does not have the flecks in it....it's a single color
4) It has held up very well....no peeling at all. The only spots where there are issues are where the concrete has spalled or broken up small chunks over time
5) Overall I'm very pleased with it except that it's slippery when wet (I asked the concrete guys to put a slightly rough surface on it, but they tried to do the entire job in one day and it dried too fast on half the garage so half has some texture and the other half is fairly smooth)
6) I clean mine about 2-3x/year with simple green and hot water with a big push broom, then hose it out. Takes about 3 hours to do since it's so large.

23974 23975

Dave you might want to consider using this clear coat in the high traffic areas that you walk in to help reduce the slipperiness. You will have to use the acid wash included to get the coating to stick so establishing your edges will be necessary.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Ole...6897/205697934

Tommy Gun
03-07-2019, 10:07 PM
I did my own house when we built it...it's the house we live in now...1999 so it's now 20 years old. Admittedly I did it with relatively inexpensive materials...could not afford the professional job at the time (our garage is about 1210 sqft.). I don't have any photos specifically of the entire floor...but you can see the look in the photos below. My notes are:

1) I waited about 60-70 days from the pour date to do it
2) I acid etched the floor
3) Bought a two part epoxy from a big box store but mine does not have the flecks in it....it's a single color
4) It has held up very well....no peeling at all. The only spots where there are issues are where the concrete has spalled or broken up small chunks over time
5) Overall I'm very pleased with it except that it's slippery when wet (I asked the concrete guys to put a slightly rough surface on it, but they tried to do the entire job in one day and it dried too fast on half the garage so half has some texture and the other half is fairly smooth)
6) I clean mine about 2-3x/year with simple green and hot water with a big push broom, then hose it out. Takes about 3 hours to do since it's so large.





Great album :git:


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tekheavy
03-07-2019, 10:36 PM
:doh:

Highwayman
03-12-2019, 07:38 PM
It's done, the cars and toolbox are in there, Pictures and final summary will come later when I am not so busy.

68fastback
03-12-2019, 09:11 PM
:wtg:

Alloy Dave
03-13-2019, 12:39 AM
Dave you might want to consider using this clear coat in the high traffic areas that you walk in to help reduce the slipperiness. You will have to use the acid wash included to get the coating to stick so establishing your edges will be necessary.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Rust-Ole...6897/205697934Thanks Mark, I'll investigate

onecrazydog
03-19-2019, 11:35 PM
It's done, the cars and toolbox are in there, Pictures and final summary will come later when I am not so busy.


:waiting2:

68fastback
03-20-2019, 12:35 AM
:wtg:

Highwayman
06-09-2023, 11:14 AM
Over 4 years later and the epoxy is holding up great. I have had many spills of different fluids on it and everyone one of them were so simple to clean up because of the epoxy finish.

Tommy Gun
06-10-2023, 12:34 PM
Nice :wtg:


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onecrazydog
06-10-2023, 08:34 PM
Epoxy is awesome stuff!!