Front control arm TSB

[Tommy Gun]

There was mention a while back about a TSB on front control arms?

Anyone know what exact parts are being replaced? Part numbers? :hiding:

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:4qgWDto4VacJ:www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-2010-mustang-gt-tech/85179d1260227347-s197-mustang-tsb-list-09-24-16.pdf+09-24-16+GRUNT/CREAK/SQUEAK/CHIRP+NOISE+FROM+THE+LOWER+CONTROL+ARM+BUSHING+OVE R+BUMPS+-+BUILT+ON+OR+BEFORE+8/3/2009&hl=en&gl=ca&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiFdck0W-LQn6wJfm3wjzZLvsNRDh_aNxlAmCJc2ZuGYzYckUEkIF9nh75V jMIbRydP6xzCcV8G76hh0Jxt3PLfTy9Z8LK5evr5Kunc97jKGT MqMXjG2EXDL5K6zS3EVRw1gW2W&sig=AHIEtbS1AO_L1Io1q2c52_5m-JpPiXBd_w

[Gr8snkbite]

I believe rob posted it. I think they replace the bushings. I have it on my computer at home, but I'm not there.

[Boston Mike]

I believe rob posted it. I think they replace the bushings. I have it on my computer at home, but I'm not there.

I had it done. They replace the entire control arm. The new one has a bigger bushing. Rob had posted it on SM, I bet it's over on TS since he probably hasn't posted it here.

[JTB]

I had it done. They replace the entire control arm. The new one has a bigger bushing. Rob had posted it on SM, I bet it's over on TS since he probably hasn't posted it here.

+1

I had it done too, new arms are beefier with a larger bushings.

TG PM me your gmail account and I'll send you the TSB, it's a big .pdf.

[Birdman]

+1

I had it done too, new arms are beefier with a larger bushings.

TG PM me your gmail account and I'll send you the TSB, it's a big .pdf.

Would you mind posting the PDF link here please?

thank you...

[JTB]

Would you mind posting the PDF link here please?

thank you...


http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:4qgWDto4VacJ:www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-2010-mustang-gt-tech/85179d1260227347-s197-mustang-tsb-list-09-24-16.pdf+09-24-16+GRUNT/CREAK/SQUEAK/CHIRP+NOISE+FROM+THE+LOWER+CONTROL+ARM+BUSHING+OVE R+BUMPS+-+BUILT+ON+OR+BEFORE+8/3/2009&hl=en&gl=ca&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiFdck0W-LQn6wJfm3wjzZLvsNRDh_aNxlAmCJc2ZuGYzYckUEkIF9nh75V jMIbRydP6xzCcV8G76hh0Jxt3PLfTy9Z8LK5evr5Kunc97jKGT MqMXjG2EXDL5K6zS3EVRw1gW2W&sig=AHIEtbS1AO_L1Io1q2c52_5m-JpPiXBd_w

[Vette Killer]

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:4qgWDto4VacJ:www.allfordmustangs.com/forums/attachments/2005-2010-mustang-gt-tech/85179d1260227347-s197-mustang-tsb-list-09-24-16.pdf+09-24-16+GRUNT/CREAK/SQUEAK/CHIRP+NOISE+FROM+THE+LOWER+CONTROL+ARM+BUSHING+OVE R+BUMPS+-+BUILT+ON+OR+BEFORE+8/3/2009&hl=en&gl=ca&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEESiFdck0W-LQn6wJfm3wjzZLvsNRDh_aNxlAmCJc2ZuGYzYckUEkIF9nh75V jMIbRydP6xzCcV8G76hh0Jxt3PLfTy9Z8LK5evr5Kunc97jKGT MqMXjG2EXDL5K6zS3EVRw1gW2W&sig=AHIEtbS1AO_L1Io1q2c52_5m-JpPiXBd_w

Thanks...wish i knew about this one while I was still under base warranty....expired about 3 weeks ago :(

[Tommy Gun]

Thanks...wish i knew about this one while I was still under base warranty....expired about 3 weeks ago :(


Before I ban you for burning out my right eye w/ that sig, do you mean that this would only be covered under the 3 year part of the warranty and not the 5 year/60,000 mile?

Anyone have any pricing on these parts?


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[Tommy Gun]

FORD:
2005-2010 Mustang ISSUE:

Some 2005-2010 Mustang 4.0L/4.6L, 2007-2010 Mustang Shelby GT500 vehicles built on or before 8/3/2009 may exhibit a grunt/creak/squeak/chirp noise from the lower control arm hydro bushing. The grunt/creak noise may occur over large vertical bumps like speed bumps and pot holes. The squeak/chirp noise may occur over bumps rough roads, and driveway approaches.
ACTION:

Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.
SERVICE PROCEDURE




Use chassis ears on the lower control arm hydro bushing bracket tabs to verify noise is coming from the hydro bushing.

If the noise is confirmed, then proceed to Step 2.
If the noise is not confirmed, then this procedure does not apply. Proceed with normal Workshop Manual (WSM) diagnostics.


Late production lower control arms were equipped with a 0.75" (19 mm) ball joint shaft and improved hydro bushing. Early production vehicles used an 0.71" (18 mm) ball joint shafts. Using a suitable caliper measure the ball joint shaft.

If the measurement is 0.75" (19 mm) this procedure does not apply and follow normal diagnostics in WSM Section 100-04.
If the ball joint shaft measures 0.71" (18 mm) an improved service lower control arm with improved hydro bushing is available. Follow WSM section 204-01 to replace.




PART NUMBER PART NAME 9R3Z-3078-A Arm Asy-Front Suspension - Right Hand (Excludes GT 500) 9R3Z-3079-A Arm Asy-Front Suspension - Left Hand (Excludes GT 500) AR3Z-3078-A Arm Asy-Front Suspension - Right Hand (GT 500) AR3Z-3079-A Arm Asy-Front Suspension - Left Hand (GT 500) WARRANTY STATUS:

Eligible Under Provisions Of New vehicle Limited Warranty Coverage
IMPORTANT: Warranty coverage limits/policies are not altered by a TSB. Warranty coverage limits are determined by the identified causal part.
OPERATION DESCRIPTION TIME 092416A2005-2010 Mustang: Replace One (1) Lower Control Arm, Includes Time To Diagnose (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)1.2 Hrs. 092416B2005-2010 Mustang: Replace Two (2) Lower Control Arms, Includes Time To Diagnose (Do Not Use With Any Other Labor Operations)1.5 Hrs. DEALER CODING

BASIC PART NO. CONDITION CODE 3078 12

[Tommy Gun]

Anyone who had this done have a invoice that shows pricing?

[Tommy Gun]

I may have to do it myself if I'm out of warranty.

Not getting any answers.

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[Grabber]

I may have to do it myself if I'm out of warranty.

Not getting any answers.

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I know a few things about this. I have 2 threads on it.

TSB thread:
http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php?/topic/51279-tsb-9-24-16-gruntcreaksqueakchirp-noise-from-the-lower-control-arm-bushing-over-bumps-built-on-or-before-832009/page__view__findpost__p__862829__fromsearch__1

Install thread:
http://www.teamshelby.com/forums/index.php?/topic/53790-tsb-09-24-16-installed-on-my-car-front-end-lcas/page__view__findpost__p__912848__fromsearch__1

[Tommy Gun]

Did you log on ?


Only every 6 months.

It's not time yet. :lol:


Is this covered under the 5 year/60,000 mile?

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[Grabber]

Only every 6 months.

It's not time yet. :lol:


Is this covered under the 5 year/60,000 mile?

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No.

[Tommy Gun]

No.


Do you know the list price of the arms?

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[Grabber]

Do you know the list price of the arms?

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I'm pretty sure I posted them in my thread on TS along with some other good info on the hardware that you will need.

It has some good info that might help you.

[Birdman]

I'm pretty sure I posted them in my thread on TS along with some other good info on the hardware that you will need.

It has some good info that might help you.

Rob do you think you could post that same information over here as well. Not everyone here has an account at TS.

thanks,

George...

[Vette Killer]

Before I ban you for burning out my right eye w/ that sig, do you mean that this would only be covered under the 3 year part of the warranty and not the 5 year/60,000 mile?

Anyone have any pricing on these parts?


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The base up here is 3 years (at least for my '07 it is), not sure if yours is the same time period or not

[Tommy Gun]

I'll have prices in the morning on the parts. Problem is the nuts and bolts require (if I change them) they are packaged 3-4 in a pack and may have to buy the whole pack. As you know factory nuts and bolts can be $5-$10 each, so i may not go that route if I can't get them individually. We'll see.



I think it's time for a sig change VK.


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[6-Speed]

Last time I inquired on these LCA part numbers at Silver State Ford, they came up as

AR3Z3078A - Front LCA - GT500 Right 2010
AR3Z3079A - Front LCA - GT500 Left 2010

Silver State Ford parts listed them for $171.21 each and Tousley listed them for $159.87.

[Birdman]

Thanks 6speed good to see you again.

[Tommy Gun]

I got the prices and ordered the parts. Invoice is in my van, I'll have to scan later....

[Tommy Gun]

http://i670.photobucket.com/albums/vv61/fastestshelby2/2002%20INTAKE/DSC08508.jpg

[Tommy Gun]

For the nuts and bolts I can only get them by the bag, so I had to pay for extras. If anyone is going to do this and needs the bolts let me know.

[Tommy Gun]

Getting this stuff put on Friday finally. :grin:

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[onecrazydog]

I am getting this TSB done too, they ordered the parts yesterday...

[Tommy Gun]

I still have some extra bolts. :grin:


Also, all the noise did not go away.

I still hear something when I back out at an angle down a driveway.

May just be how the bushing flexes.

It's the only time I hear it and it's pretty insignificant.

[onecrazydog]

Just got a call from the dealership, tsb parts are in!! They get installed Wed!!

[HSURB]

Just got a call from the dealership, tsb parts are in!! They get installed Wed!!

What were the symptoms you experienced to know you had a problem? I'm sure it is earlier in this thread, but I'm not reading back.

HSURB®

[Cheftjpeck]

I still have creaking and groaning in my cars front end.. Thought it might be from sitting outside in elements from last 2 months... But still there.. Bringing to dealer wednesday to be checked out..happens when turnng slowly and over speed bumps etc.. We will see

[Tommy Gun]

I stool have creaking and groaning in my cars front end.. Thought it might be from string outside in elements formlast 2 months... Buy still there.. Bringing to dealer wednesday to be checked out..happens when turnng slowly and over speed bumps etc.. We will see


Did you ever take English in school? :tease2:


:rofl3:

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[Tommy Gun]

What were the symptoms you experienced to know you had a problem? I'm sure it is earlier in this thread, but I'm not reading back.

HSURB®


I got it most when backing up w/ wheels turned going slow.

Like a creaking/moaning sound.

Sorry I said moaning. :groan:

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[Cheftjpeck]

Did you ever take English in school? :tease2:


:rofl3:

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Dang iPhone ... Not so easy to type... To answer your question... No I did not...I was off doing more important stuff during english class
:grin:

[Tommy Gun]

Dang iPhone ... Not so easy to type... To answer your question... No I did not...I was off doing more important stuff during english class
:grin:


:sex: ?


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[onecrazydog]

What were the symptoms you experienced to know you had a problem? I'm sure it is earlier in this thread, but I'm not reading back.

HSURB®

Front end clunks on potholes and when turning up my driveway... Nothing major but figured may as well take advantage of the offering and put the stronger part on!! I just asked the dealership to check it when they were putting the fuel rails on and they said yup, it needs them!! I have a really good tech... Same guy, Dan, always works on my car... He's just a little rough with strut bars!! Lol...

[JTB]

Front end clunks on potholes and when turning up my driveway... Nothing major but figured may as well take advantage of the offering and put the stronger part on!! I just asked the dealership to check it when they were putting the fuel rails on and they said yup, it needs them!! I have a really good tech... Same guy, Dan, always works on my car... He's just a little rough with strut bars!! Lol...


You're an understanding DOG, Stace. My car came back with my strut bar like that, Dan and I would be doing a little BOXING. :boxing:

[Cobra Drifter]

I hear a squeal when turning up our parking garage ramp at work. Since I have coilovers I bet they will say its because I improved my suspension voiding out the warrently?

[Alloy Dave]

I hear a squeal when turning up our parking garage ramp at work. Since I have coilovers I bet they will say its because I improved my suspension voiding out the warrently?
Did you have an alignment done after? Squealing upon turns MIGHT be caused by excessive toe out/in.

My guess, to your question, is "yes".

[onecrazydog]

I hear a squeal when turning up our parking garage ramp at work. Since I have coilovers I bet they will say its because I improved my suspension voiding out the warrently?

You need a good dealership... I just mentioned the tsb to mine and they ordered the parts and put them on!! Then sent ford the bill on the labour I would imagine... I also get them to install the parts I change and always ask if it will affect the warranty...

[Cobra Drifter]

I have alot of "Toe in" from being slammed :grin:

Still just the same I should start getting all my TSB work done sooner then later. Only < 2 more year left on standard warrenty

[Cobra Drifter]

Ok the Shelby suspension has been returned to stock.
Looking at getting it into the dealership. :)

Can someone attach the TSB pdf files to the thread as goodle docs are blocked at work and I need to print today.

Thanks

[Gr8snkbite]

this one.....?

[Cobra Drifter]

Thanks but is there more than one TSB for the A-Arms?

[Gr8snkbite]

Thanks but is there more than one TSB for the A-Arms?

not that i am aware of....check TS...Rob had a list of them all over there in the tech section...

[Tommy Gun]

Still wondering if this was worth it because seems like I still have some of the same noise when backing out of an inclined driveway. :nonono:


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[Joe G]

Still wondering if this was worth it because seems like I still have some of the same noise when backing out of an inclined driveway. :nonono:


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I'd just turn up the radio. :look:










:sofa:

[Tommy Gun]

I do. :wtg:

[Cobra Drifter]

I gave up on getting them replaced. Im gonna buy some aftermarket ones and be done with it :grin:

[CH53Driver]

I gave up on getting them replaced. Im gonna buy some aftermarket ones and be done with it :grin:

:wtg:

[Tommy Gun]

I gave up on getting them replaced. Im gonna buy some aftermarket ones and be done with it :grin:


I'm learning the hard way. :nonono:


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